Thought you might be interested in how my junior ratings look. These are all players eligible to play in juniors. Also shows what they are ranked in my Mens rankings.
It takes into account all Mens tour results plus all Junior results of Grade G1 and above.
The ones in bold played Wimbledon Juniors this year. The ones in red are in the semi-finals.
Ollie is the youngest in the top 30.
Looks like the top 9 concentrate on the mens tour now.
AK Junior
AK Mens
ITF
ATP
1
(143)
Bernard Tomic
AUS
17y 8m
18
(246)
2
(195)
Filip Krajinovic
SRB
18y 4m
-
(170)
3
(281)
Ryan Harrison
USA
18y 1m
-
(234)
4
(430)
Gianni Mina
FRA
18y 4m
13
(658)
5
(444)
Yuki Bhambri
IND
17y 11m
512
(390)
6
(459)
Andrea Collarini
USA
18y 5m
89
(626)
7
(479)
David Souto
VEN
18y 3m
682
(486)
8
(521)
Javier Marti
ESP
18y 5m
913
(476)
9
(565)
Carlos Boluda
ESP
17y 5m
35
(979)
10
(583)
Facundo Arguello
ARG
17y 10m
76
(561)
11
(587)
Agustin Velotti
ARG
18y 1m
2
(710)
12
(613)
Jack Sock
USA
17y 9m
277
(689)
13
(623)
James Duckworth
AUS
18y 5m
8
(1042)
14
(635)
Denis Kudla
USA
17y 10m
7
(801)
15
(642)
Justin Eleveld
NED
18y 1m
33
(1029)
16
(665)
Jason Kubler
AUS
17y 1m
1
(780)
17
(684)
Mikhail Biryukov
RUS
18y 2m
14
(1258)
18
(689)
Jiri Vesely
CZE
16y 11m
5
(1234)
19
(698)
Marton Fucsovics
HUN
18y 4m
15
(1538)
20
(713)
Renzo Olivo
ARG
18y 3m
9
(906)
21
(714)
Benjamin Mitchell
AUS
17y 7m
51
(851)
22
(715)
Arthur de Greef
BEL
18y 3m
43
(781)
23
(----)
Henri Laaksonen
FIN
18y 3m
145
(1212)
24
(731)
Diego Schwartzman
ARG
17y 10m
-
(659)
25
(732)
Damir Dzumhur
BIH
18y 1m
6
(1077)
26
(746)
Suk-Young Jeong
KOR
17y 2m
90
(820)
27
(748)
Tiago Fernandes
BRA
17y 5m
3
(768)
28
(757)
Oliver Golding
GBR
16y 9m
40
(----)
29
(775)
Nikoloz Basilashvili
GEO
18y 4m
-
(591)
30
(819)
Jordan Cox
USA
18y 5m
183
(597)
31
(837)
James Marsalek
GBR
18y 2m
64
(1744)
47
(948)
Ashley Hewitt
GBR
18y 4m
67
(1424)
80
(1146)
Jack Carpenter
GBR
18y 2m
56
(1350)
82
(1154)
Liam Broady
GBR
16y 5m
131
(1321)
102
(1241)
George Morgan
GBR
17y 4m
44
(1350)
110
(1274)
Lewis Burton
GBR
18y 3m
222
(----)
115
(1289)
Tom Farquharson
GBR
18y 4m
101
(----)
125
(1338)
Richard Gabb
GBR
18y 4m
142
(----)
143
(1483)
Andrew Bettles
GBR
17y 5m
206
(----)
172
(1670)
Toby Martin
GBR
17y 4m
424
(----)
212
(1677)
Christopher Simpson
GBR
18y 1m
148
(----)
226
(1722)
Tom Allen
GBR
18y 5m
74
(----)
313
(1669)
Lloyd Glasspool
GBR
16y 7m
637
(----)
327
(2141)
Ben Davis
GBR
18y 1m
784
(----)
328
(2057)
Robert Carter
GBR
16y 11m
188
(----)
-- Edited by Akhenaten on Friday 2nd of July 2010 10:50:21 AM
How did you come to those conclusions? Oliver Golding doesnt even have a men's ranking so how come you place him at 757? Sorry if i'm being stupid and missing an obvious calculation!
Interesting to see Akhenaten that you have Benjamin Mitchell up quite close behind Oliver's previous two opponents, so looks like he will again have to play very well to get through.
Re the Akhenaten rankings for seniors, I understand how they work ( well, I wouldn't like questions just now on the absolute detail, but in principle ) and they have often seemed remarkably good at showing where players were over / underranked re their actual performances and often confirmed intuition about certain players.
The basis for the junior ones must clearly be a bit more complex
It's calculated using every match since 2002 using the relative levels of players playing.
There's nothing more complicated about the junior rankings, they are just in order of their Mens rankings. (Apart from a few rules I have about number of matches played etc. eg. Laaksonen hasn't played recently, that's why he's not got a mens ranking.)
I recently added the GA & G1 grade junior results into my database, so it's now much better at giving juniors comparable rankings to those in the regular tour.
Golding not having a ATP ranking, probably means he's the much underranked player in the world - I have him at 757! (That's GB no.21)
Interesting to see the your rankings of Juniors too.
While I accept there is some substance in an arguement put elsewhere that with Oli's style of play for one thing he may take longer to come through, I would think these rankings do show more clearly how George Morgan and Oli Golding are getting on with general results in comparison against others that are still eligible juniors, as distinct to the ITF Junior world rankings.
They do show that Oli has actually fallen back since Wimbledon last year on your rankings both in general overall world terms and as against other juniors, when you reflect on that previous very notable ranking when you had him as world 757 and junior 28 against many juniors who are no longer juniors this year.
Still time for Oli and George to really come through and push on the way Liam Broady has recently. Oli in particular is a latish 1993 boy with even now still very few younger players ahead of him.
-- Edited by indiana on Friday 1st of April 2011 08:56:36 PM