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wolf · Tennis legend

Tara Moore

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Her X post suggests to me her career is over as a player

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Her X post suggests to me her career is over as a player

I think basic maths suggest her career is over as a player hmm

emmsie69 · Top national player

christ wrote:
dodrade wrote:
Tara's statement on Twitter.
https://x.com/TaraMoore92/status/1946952379200418012?t=RO0-_paStGY6gXncs8SMhQ&s=19
I don't know about her innocence, only she can know that, but I absolutely agree with everything else in her statement. The system is broken, and broken in a way that favours the rich and famous.

Halep and Sharapova say hello.

I'm not sure what people want. Would it be better if anyone failing a doping test just got a slap on the wrist regardless of the severity.

You could argue that Sinner and Swiatek got a slap on the wrist but ultimately their explanations tallied with the evidence, Tara's didn't because of the Nandrolone in her system.

I was a little perplexed that a professional tennis player would risk eating meat in Columbia but now we know the sheer quantities that she downed I just think she's stupid.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

I wonder how he levels of the other drug that the other two players failed for compare with theirs? Does it tally with the prodigious appetite she appears to have?

Im feeling sceptical that anyone would or could eat that much at all, let alone in Colombia. And agree with what Emmsie says! Really?!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

I saw her eating lunch at Ilkley, not sure who with, may have been Sam Murray. She was eating a chicken wrap, nothing that seemed like a lot of food.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
I saw her eating lunch at Ilkley, not sure who with, may have been Sam Murray. She was eating a chicken wrap, nothing that seemed like a lot of food.

Emmsie is taking it off her witness statement, as per the tribunal

You think Tara was exagerating? But there were witnesses to it, as well (although I think one of the key witnesses was her wife)

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 21st of July 2025 07:24:35 PM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
I saw her eating lunch at Ilkley, not sure who with, may have been Sam Murray. She was eating a chicken wrap, nothing that seemed like a lot of food.
Emmsie is taking it off her witness statement, as per the tribunal
You think Tara was exagerating? But there were witnesses to it, as well (although I think one of the key witnesses was her wife)

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 21st of July 2025 07:24:35 PM

I realise Emmsie got it from the witness statement. Im sceptical about whether she is exaggerating tbh. It doesnt hang together - eating that much in the first place is hard to accept, and then the circumstances she ate it in. It doesnt make sense to me.

So, yes, I guess I am.

christ · Futures level

So hang on - is she stupid or guilty?

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

christ wrote:
So hang on - is she stupid or guilty?

I dont want to say anymore in a public forum Im afraid

emmsie69 · Top national player

christ wrote:
So hang on - is she stupid or guilty?

In the eyes of CAS, she's guilty. I separate dopers into my own categories so the likes of Lance Armstrong and Linford Christie (I'd possibly put Halep in this category too) are manipulative cheaters, then there are the Ben Johnsons, Dwain Chambers and the young that are naive and/or stupid and get manipulated by the people around them.

Then you've got everyone else that potentially fell foul of the rules relatively innocently for a variety of reasons. Sharapova kind of makes it into this category but she was taking the drug to gain an edge when it was legal so she's a grey area.

But the rules are in place. Athletes should know the rules, even a lot of us on here that are by no means Professional sports people knew there was an issue with meat in S America so it isn't unreasonable to suppose that a Tennis Player would know and be far more circumspect about eating meat and definitely not in the quantities Tara claims she did.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

christ wrote:
So hang on - is she stupid or guilty?

Surely you can be both?

Not talking about Tara per se but you imply the two are mutually exclusive which obviously is not true

christ · Futures level

Coup Droit wrote:
christ wrote:
So hang on - is she stupid or guilty?
Surely you can be both?
Not talking about Tara per se but you imply the two are mutually exclusive which obviously is not true

In this case I think there are two distinct paths: either she is guilty and she was cleverly eating like a horse in an attempt to defeat the testing regime, or she was stupid enough to innocently eat masses of potentially problematic meat in potentially problematic countries and thus isn't actually guilty (as her excuse is truly the reason for the failure).

I don't think that she can - in this instance - be both guilty and stupid. (Although I suppose it may be considered that any criminal must be stupid for thinking that they could defeat the system, but I don't think that is the kind of stupid that we are debating here)

It must be noted that it appears that the authorities - eventually - must have decided that the first must be the case: guilty and attempting a cover-up.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

christ wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
christ wrote:
So hang on - is she stupid or guilty?
Surely you can be both?
Not talking about Tara per se but you imply the two are mutually exclusive which obviously is not true
In this case I think there are two distinct paths: either she is guilty and she was cleverly eating like a horse in an attempt to defeat the testing regime, or she was stupid enough to innocently eat masses of potentially problematic meat in potentially problematic countries and thus isn't actually guilty (as her excuse is truly the reason for the failure).
I don't think that she can - in this instance - be both guilty and stupid. (Although I suppose it may be considered that any criminal must be stupid for thinking that they could defeat the system, but I don't think that is the kind of stupid that we are debating here)
It must be noted that it appears that the authorities - eventually - must have decided that the first must be the case: guilty and attempting a cover-up.

Being frank I really dont know - I am sceptical she actually ate so much to be honest - it almost seems counter productive. Can you digest that much and be on top form fitness wise? Seems a stretch. I know some people ay they saw her eat loads, but I am not sure I trust that

wolf · Tennis legend

Jon you said you saw Tara at Ilkley and said she was not on top form fitness wise. Therefore you have your answer over whether she's guilty or not.