Indian Wells SF: Andy vs Roger Federer

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

RE: Indian Wells SF: Andy vs Roger Federer

seagull · Hall of fame

Another great performance - Number 3 is getting ever closer

Happycynic · Pro player

Consider my words eaten. Yum. Post-viral indeed, what twaddle I utter sometimes....

andyjmr · Intermediate Club Player

What the heck happened to Fed there? Literally from the sublime to the ridiculous. Strange that it all went downhill for him after Andy slipped. Obviously a mental thing going on there with Fed.

Anyway, great to see Andy back and seemingly over his illness. Hooray!!

helki · Futures qualifying

Back from the snowy slopes of Austria in time to watch this match. Rog must hate to see Andy's name in the same half of the draw. wink

I, too, wondered if he'd blown his chance at the end of the second set, but thankfully, he pulled through and Rog went to pieces.

steven · Tennis legend

Top 4 graph now looking even nicer

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

andyjmr wrote:

What the heck happened to Fed there? Literally from the sublime to the ridiculous. Strange that it all went downhill for him after Andy slipped. Obviously a mental thing going on there with Fed.

Anyway, great to see Andy back and seemingly over his illness. Hooray!!

Well you see, when Andy fell Fed thought his voodoo pin-sticking had worked. . . then Andy got up and smashed a couple of balls past him, and he just went to pieces. . .

My nerves are in tatters, my fingers are chewed down to the elbows (and it's not easy typing with your elbows ) but I am one happy bunny.

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

Madeline wrote:

My nerves are in tatters, my fingers are chewed down to the elbows (and it's not easy typing with your elbows ) but I am one happy bunny.

The cat survived this time then? I'm glad, I was beginning to think I'd have to report Andy Murray to the RSPCA for cruetly to madeline's cat.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

She was out catching mice.

Drew · Mar 22, 2009

Thanks Mad for the scores. Followed the livescore / bbc live text on my phone.

RF really gets wound up playing Andy. Which is a bit of a mystery really. Is Andy that good to get into Feds head!

Rafa leads by a set but Roddick at 6-5 in the second. If Roddick wins then Andy will walk it in 2. If its Rafa...then he will win in 3.

you better get that cat out the house again Mad !!

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

I'll see to that

That was really the most merciless dismantling of Federer's game and nerves that I have ever seen by anybody not named Nadal. I was a Federer supporter before Andy came along, and he is still my second-favourite. After the match, Federer said,

"He's a great counter puncher and reads the game really well," the Swiss world number two told reporters after slipping to his sixth defeat by the Briton in eight career meetings.

"He's got great feel and he's very confident at the moment. He knows he doesn't need to play close to the lines because he knows he can cover the court really well.

"I think that calms him down mentally. I think that's why he's playing so well."

http://uk.reuters.com/article/tennisNews/idUKN2153661020090322

Nice to see that Fed is more complimentary this time, and a lot more generous than some of the fanatical Fedfans on other boards who are claiming Andy fell deliberately to put Roger off!!

I just hope there are no after-effects from the fall - I remember the fall against Haas here a couple of years ago, where he went on to win but the next day could hardly move and lost dismally to Djokovic.

kundalini · Specialist Reporter + Intermediate Club Player

A few stats:

Unreturned serves (including aces): Fed 13 - Murray 27

Winners (including aces) Fed 31 (3a+10f+5s+5v+4b+3Rf+d) - Murray 17(6a+4pf+3pb+2f+d+l) (official stats have 31 - 20)

Unforced errors: Fed 41(16f+23b+s+pb) - Murray 25(3df+8f+7b+5pf+2pb) (official stats have 46 - 19)

Break Points: Fed faced 6 - 1/6 1st serves in play, saved 1 bp through M's woeful return of a 2nd serve. The 5 breaks were F 4 bh ue's + M p(b) w. Murray faced 10 bps. 5/10 1st serves in play. 4 bps saved with ur serves. 1 saved with pf. 1 lost with a f ue. 1 lost to a Fed f w. The rest saved thanks to Fed ues.

(Just figured something out. The official unforced errors include every failure to return a 2nd serve and assume that every passing shot error was a forced error. They don't include dfs either)

-- Edited by kundalini on Sunday 22nd of March 2009 01:24:01 PM

DUSTY DICK · Club Coach

Andy knows how to get in fed's head. It surely has to be a mental thing. The US open final last year was Andy's first GS final so you would expect him to have nerves and Fed rightly took charge but if they meet again at some point in a GS final i think fed would crumble. He's so close to that record of beating Sampras he can almost touch it. But he must know deep down that there is a very real possibility that he may never win another GS. Murray will be number 2 later this year. I'd bet my life on it.