As I said in another thread, I think it's a good draw.

I know that folk in other forums have found reason to think otherwise, but those strike me as folk who would only be happy if the could handpick the draw themselves, and it perhaps started such as :  1)  LL  2)  Q or Q  etc. 

I do think he has a route there to the quarter finals, that should be perfectly acceptable to the self proclaimed "one of the best 5 grass court players in the world".

Now, if someone would take out Nadal, please before the quarter finals, then none of the "big 3" would stand beween Andy and the final...OK, dreaming now ! 

Gulbis will take out Nadal according to me, too. Nadal has often struggled against people with heavier shots and the courts are allegedly faster than last year.


That said, I won't be shocked if Isner has a 35 ace day and beats Gulbis!

A good way to test it is to see whether you wish he'd had one of the draws of the other no 9-12 seeds. On that basis I think only Berdych has an easier route to the quarter final (in his case against Federer).

Canas has had a few wins on grass this week, Gasquet if he gets to the 4th round could by then be finding some form, and Nadal just looks too good at the moment to fail to get to the QF.

Tried to suggest a prediction competition for Andy's progress on the other thread - no responses so far - please someone have a go!

How can anyone say that this is a hard draw for Murray is beyond me?

The only man who can stop him reaching the QF's in Gasquet, and we know what kind of form he's been in this year, and it would be a 50/50 match at best anyway...

Seriously, which of the players does anyone think will beat him?

Santoro? Lovely player to watch he is, just hasn't got the weapons to beat hurt Murray and if he doesn't serve well could be in for another complete thrashing like Ferrer gave him at the French

Malisse? Good player he WAS, but hasn't done a thing since returning this year and has lost to some shocking players - A 3 and 2 loss to Hewitt in his current form tells you the threat he should pose on grass

Canas? Are people seriously trying to argue that Canas is a threat on a grass court... he made the SF this week, but beat Zverev, Bopanna and Troicki, hardly players in Murray's league.

Haas? Now this I'll accept, but Haas is bound to be injured again by this time, and although he's got a lovely game to watch, on grass it will match up to Murray very well.... unless he plays as badly as Indian Wells, Murray shouldn't lose

Robredo? Like the guy, but he isn't getting past round 2, even if he had 100 goes at this draw

And then the round 4 opponents?

Calleri and Starace are total clowns on a grass court, Grosjean is too injured to pose much of a challenge, Simon lost easily on his favourite surface to Murray, while Olejniczak isn't going to beat Murray.

That leaves:

Fish? Can you really see him beating Murray? And if it looks like he could, just hit to the forehand and you've got the match won.

Anderson? Tall guy, good serve, but doesn't move well enough and struggled with a low ball on a hard court, let alone grass. And Murray's returns will be too good for him anyway.

Gasquet? Had a shocking season, but a better grass court player than Murray is and if he plays well then he is Murray's only challenger.

Out of the 15 other player he could face before the QF's, ONLY GASQUET IS A THREAT AND LOSING TO ANYONE OF THE OTHERS WOULD BE A TERRIBLE RESULT.

Bad draw? You couldn't have hand-picked a better draw!

I didnt come here for an argument - ok maybe I did - does anyone else agree that Berdych's draw presents an easier run to the QF?

murrayfan99 wrote:

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I didnt come here for an argument - ok maybe I did - does anyone else agree that Berdych's draw presents an easier run to the QF?

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Not me.   Anyway, don't you mean "does anyone agree" ? 

First 2 rounds good.

But then I think he could face Kohlscreiber in the 3rd round ( rather than Verdasco ).  Kohlschreiber is having a good season, 21 in the race and defeated Haas, Soderling and Blake in Halle before losing 6-3 6-4 to Federer in the final.

4th round -  potentially Ferrer or Ancic.  Ferrer, clear 5th in the both the official rankings and the race and evidently in quite good form on grass given he has just wion in Ordina.  His hardest match of the week was Ancic, who as it happens has won the doubles at Ordina.

Na, I'd prefer Andy's draw, thanks.  

oh dear - I hate it when he has an easy draw. That's when the slip- ups happen, and "Casual Murray" turns up to play.