20th now, but I have lost my finalist (Roddick) and Nadal is still there, so I have a false position, really.

Now I need Nadal out as fast as possible.

Count Zero wrote:

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I hate tennis players

And i hate Steven for making me hate them

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I can't stand you either, Count!  No reason ...

Actually, no, that should be I can't UNDERstand you - why the moaning? You went up 120 places today to 100=. Still, not as bad as Pebs on CC, who was today's highest climber and was still having a good whinge!

DAY 4 / END OF R2 REPORT

I saw some statistical analysis before the tournament that concluded that virtually all the shocks at Wimbledon over the years have occurred in the middle two quarters and I am beginning to wish that I had taken it more seriously, because the middle two quarters are looking like a disaster zone for the seeds at the moment.

The Muppet Show was invented in America, and a couple of Americans certainly starred in it today. First James "only the crumbliest, flakiest choker" Flake showed what an expert he is at (choking in) 5-setters by going down to, of all people, Rainer Schuettler, then Duckboy quacked against Tipsy.

Since 80% of us picked him to waddle his way into the semis, as with Nole this result is likely to be good for you if you had Roddick going out in the QFs or earlier, fairly neutral if you were one of the majority and bad if you thought he would make it to the Final.

The Duckboy/Flake section now has nobody left in it who was picked by more than 2% to reach the QFs, while the highest of the two seeds left in the third quarter is Paul-Henri Chokieu! And you thought the 2nd quarter looked bad!

TEAMS LEAGUE

There was lots of movement in the teams league today, with Centre Court ending R2 back at the top, AM.com moving up another place to 2nd spot and the Feddies, who are clearly doing far better in the top half of the draw than in the bottom half, dropping from 1st to 3rd, continuing their yo-yo motion between those two positions.

BT.net had a very good day and ended up winning R2, moving up 2 to 4th overall and swapping places with MTF, down 2 to 6th, with Rusedski.co.uk remaining between them in 5th place.

TAT are now middle of the table in 7th place, having gone up two places every day since finishing day 1 at the bottom of the pile, which is where the Ducklings now lie after a bad day for US tennis.

INDIVIDUALS

Joint R1 winner d_s (MT) lost the lead early on in the day but moved back to the top of the table right at the end of R2, ahead (on tiebreak) of MaryS (AR), who moved up 4 to 2nd after coming joint top in R2 with 22/32 correct. One of the other joint R1 winners, Duchess (CC), completes the top three, dropping just one place today.

The other joint R2 winner was Fitz (JM), who shoots up 52 places to 5th as a result. He is the best placed of the seven entrants who got 12/16 correct today.

MOVERS

The fastest climber today was another of the magnificent seven who got 12/16 correct - Flintstone (CC), up 184 to 68=. A number of players rose more than 100 places, with day 4 seeing a lot more big moves than day 3 did.

The biggest faller was Boarder35m (MT), down 225 to 332nd with 5/16 correct, the equal lowest score on day 4, while Azarielle (RG), level at 407th, had the lowest score for R2 as a whole, with 9/32 correct.

OUTLOOK

There could be some very big moves in R3 and beyond, because the correlation between peoples' positions at the end of R2 and how many of their R3 winners have survived R2 is unusually low.

Those with the most survivors, 12, are spread nearly all the way down the table, with MaryS (AR) in 2nd place and JamieL (AM), down 11 to 68=, the only two of them who are in the top 150 - and they have both lost their champion picks, Duckboy and Nole respectively!

After them, you have to go all the way down to EKGuy39 (AM), up 13 to 183= today, Fishflaps (CC), down 45 to 222=, and RoastLamb (AM), down 31 to 316=, to find the other three entrants with 12 potential R3 winners left. Conversely, last placed Ridomi (AR) has just four players left.

TEAM KO

The last 16 round of the team KO had a lot more close matches than the same competition at RG, with no. 1 seeds Centre Court prevailing over bottom seeds the Ducklings despite having been slightly behind at the halfway stage, thus setting up a rematch of the RG QF where they edged out BT.net, who will be out for revenge.

No. 4 seeds AM.com came from behind as well to take out T4Y and set up a dream QF clash with JM.org (who beat no. 5 seeds LleytonHewitt.biz) - sibling rivalry at its best! In fact, the first two QFs contain nothing but GB-based teams!

In the bottom half of the draw, TAT came from behind (as they are wont to do) to beat no. 3 seeds the Feddies and will now face no. 6 seeds Rusedski.co.uk, who completed a convincing win over the Dammitaires, while Tennisopolis.com edged out no. 2 seeds MTF and will take on no. 7 seeds the RafaelNadalFans combo team.

LAST 16 RESULTS - winners in bold

(1) Centre Court Forum 35.31
(16) AndyRoddick.com 34.32

(9) Other Boards 35.43
(8) BritishTennis.net 35.84

(5) LleytonHewitt.biz 33.33
(12) JamieMurray.org 34.43

(13) Tennis4you.com 35.12
(4) AndyMurray.com 35.52

(3) RogerFederer.com 35.20
(14) TalkAboutTennis 35.53

(11) RichardGasquet.net 32.50
(6) Rusedski.co.uk 35.68

(7) RafaelNadalFans 36.00
(10) Assorted Individuals 33.50

(15) Tennisopolis.com 34.67
(2) MensTennisForums 34.30

QUARTER-FINALS (to be based on Wimbledon R3 scores only)

(1) Centre Court Forum
(8) BritishTennis.net

(12) JamieMurray.org
(4) AndyMurray.com

(14) TalkAboutTennis
(6) Rusedski.co.uk

(7) RafaelNadalFans
(15) Tennisopolis.com

9th-16th playoff QFs

(16) AndyRoddick.com
(9) Other Boards

(5) LleytonHewitt.biz
(13) Tennis4you.com

(3) RogerFederer.com
(11) RichardGasquet.net

(10) Assorted Individuals
(2) MensTennisForums



-- Edited by steven at 00:43, 2008-06-27

Good luck Federer, Hewitt, Berdbrain (?), Super Mario, Stadler, Zverev & Lopez.

Like a lot of people I will be rooting for Stadler & Zverev to cover my damages, hopefully Lopez winning would cover it if they don't upset the odds. I can see Verdasco beating Berdbrain, my extreme hating of Verdasco means I never pick him. Bolelli could beat a dodgy looking Hewitt which would be disaster, but I can't see Ancic losing to Pics. If Federer loses to Gicquel I will never do another pick 'em.

Ferrer, Baggy and Berdych are crucial today, and all 3 winning could keep me in my top 20 spot, but that may require Super Bol to beat Hewitt, seeing as Gonzo let me down this time after justifying my faith in him at RG where I had him in the QF's

Hope that Ferrer returns like he did at Rosmalen last week and beats the most overrated player in men's tennis in Ancic to keep me strong....

Brilliant smiley there!


Welcome to the board.

Steven I know its a lot to ask but would you be able to tell me my round of 16 picks as i couldn't print my picks at the time of selection. If youa re busy though don't worry. Thanks