Monte-Carlo Masters - R3: Murray vs Djokovic

ForeverDelayed · Grand Slam Champion

RE: Monte-Carlo Masters - R3: Murray vs Djokovic

indiana · Tennis legend

ForeverDelayed wrote:

helki wrote:

Means nothing to me but the latest odds are: Djokovic 4/11 Murray 2/1.

Honestly... I think Djokovic is good value at that is you look at the head to heads between the players and Djokovic is proven on clay courts while Muzza isn;t, but British players are always shorter than they should be because people bet on them more

While I do agree that when betting in this country, it is rarely a good idea to bet on British players / teams etc, because the odds tend to be too short, in this case I actually do think Andy has more chance than some might think.

As Madeline said, for various reasons we have never really seen the best of what Andy is capable of on clay.

His game in many ways should be adaptable to clay, and he did play so much clay court tennis in his early days, when in Spain.

I think it is laso worth looking at his most recernt 3 matches on clay i.e. Hamburg last year : Was 5 -1 up on Volandri and generally regarded as playing really well when his wrist went.

Monte Carlo this year : His 2 victories so far with no clay match play for a year and actually not much before that.

I do think that Djokovic is the more likely winner, but wouldn't be totally surprised to see Andy come out on top.

mjd · Challenger qualifying

Even BBC said today that "Andy is playing on his least favourite surface", yet Andy has said "clay is his favourite surface" and this is supported in his ITF profile amongst others, although I am not so sure his results would support that.

timmoore46 · Admin:moderator + Club Coach

Central Court 1.30pm BST very approx in my estimates.

Anyone like to confirm or update that ?

The Hoose · Satellite level

I haven't seen the stats but I wouldn't have thought there would be much distortion on British tennis players' odds for a tournament like Monte Carlo. These sorts of matches won't tend to attract the average patriotic punter in the street - it'll be mainly the serious, bigger money gamblers, who you'd expect to be more objective...

It's a pretty liquid market these days and I'd expect bookies to keep their odds fairly close to their true assessment.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

timmoore46 wrote:

Central Court 1.30pm BST very approx in my estimates.

Anyone like to confirm or update that ?

Nearer 2.30, I'd have thought, Tim: Ferrer saw off Tipsy relatively quickly, but Rafa vs JCF, the second match, is still in progress, albeit with Rafa a set & 4-1 up (he's just lost one of his two breaks!), & then it's Fed vs Monfils, which could take a while if Jolly Roger's as slow out of the blocks as he was against Ramírez Hidalgo yesterday!

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

Stircrazy wrote:

timmoore46 wrote:

Central Court 1.30pm BST very approx in my estimates.

Anyone like to confirm or update that ?

Nearer 2.30, I'd have thought, Tim: Ferrer saw off Tipsy relatively quickly, but Rafa vs JCF, the second match, is still in progress, albeit with Rafa a set & 4-1 up (he's just lost one of his two breaks!), & then it's Fed vs Monfils, which could take a while if Jolly Roger's as slow out of the blocks as he was against Ramírez Hidalgo yesterday!

It's always difficult to predict when a match is fourth (or anything other than first) on court, especially when on clay where we know points can take literally hours to complete! Given that it's now 1pm and Fed has just gone a break down to Monfils but has a break point back, I'm going to guess nearer 3pm for Murray to get on court.

Drew · Apr 24, 2008

Fed now 5-3 up...

ForeverDelayed · Grand Slam Champion

Fed's a set and a break up and looking as if he's got the match in the bag, so we're looking at about 2.15 ish for the match to begin

Drew · Apr 24, 2008

Fed 6-3 3-2...

Drew · Apr 24, 2008

Fed 6-3 5-3...

mkkreuk · Admin:Moderator + ATP qualifying

Fed wins 6-3 6-4.

helki · Futures qualifying

Fed's now finished 6-3 6-4. That would appear to be better from him.

wolf · Tennis legend

They've just come on court, big cheer for Djokovic. I'm watching on Betfair...

wolf · Tennis legend

Murray wins the toss and chooses to recieve.

Djokovic to serve at 0-0

15-0 Serve, fh and overhead put away from D, M well behind baseline
30-0 bh long from M
40-0 sorry missed it
40-15 good return from M bh long from D
Game D inside out fh cc winner from D

Djokovic leads 1-0