Cheers for the replies. I didn't pay attention to that but to be honest I have only recently started doing my own spreadsheet and was most pleased with myself when I got all this week correct. Then when I noticed him down to 10 on Steven's I though oh no what have I forgotten now ;-0

Yes, theHoose got it right, I just look at where that number of points would have placed the player on the current ranking list. It's as accurate as you can realistically get for the lower-ranked Brits without keeping track of hundreds of players (though very rarely spot on!) and it's quite often turned out to give the right answer for Andy too, though hopefully not this week!

Once it becomes clear that the following Monday's position is definite (e.g. from analysis on this board or another one), I put that value in instead.

I see that Almagro, Nieminen and also Youzhny  have had their relevant ranking and race scores corrected by the ATP.

Clearly, they read this site    Maybe we should point out that there is a strange 0 appearing for Andy against Indianapolis, could he please have this replaced by his 120 score, thanks !

With Tursunov's demolition of Gasquet tonight, Andy should be safe at #9 this week. The only person who could pass him is Verdasco, and that would only be if Andy lost his next match and Verdasco won the whole tournament - not very likely.

I think Andy would have to get to the final to pass Roddick for #8.

And all this despite the current ranking "stagger" problem - by August 18 when he drops last year's Canada and Cincinnati points - 40 - and gets back his optionals of 320, things are looking rosy.

It is very complicated with this ranking points stagger, so Andy will not feel the benefit of this week's points for another fortnight. But then. . . see my post above yours!

At present he is on 1860 points at #9; Roddick is #8 on 1865, Blake #7 on 1955, and Nalbandian #6 on 1980. If Andy wins his next match and gets to the final, his points will be 1985 and he will jump to #6.

If he loses his match he will stay at #9 for one week, but should jump up when the 07 Canada and Cinci points come off and he reclaims his "lost" optional. However Roddick is down to play Los Angeles next week, and there is always the possibility that Blake may get a wild card, which could mess things up if they do well.

One thing is sure - in the Race rankings, Andy has already moved up to #5!

-- Edited by Madeline at 00:34, 2008-08-02

I am really getting into tracking the ATP rankings - but still cant get my head around them! lol

Can someone please explain soemthing to me about the points stagger.

I see that this weeks the following tournaments fall of the rankings:
Sopot & Washington

on Monday Muzza had 1835 points, but did not play any of the above tournaments last year - for this weeks do his points stay at 1835 + the Cinci points or does there always have to be points that fall off?

Thanks.

-- Edited by andybud at 19:27, 2008-08-02

Andy started the week at 1835 as you say. He adds in the Cinci points - 350 as of the moment - but has to lose, temporarily, his 4th optional of 200, so only has a net gain of 150 taking him to 1985.

At the moment, they are counting 11 Masters series and only 3 optionals.

By the rankings of Aug 11th, last year's Canada Masters points, 35, drop off but he gets back his 4th optional of 200 so gains a net 165.

In the rankings of Aug 18th, last year's Cinci Masters points, 5, drop off but he gets back his 5th optional of  120, so gains a net 115 on top - all without hitting a ball.

I think that is right and I hope that helps.