I love the fact the name of the events now reflects the points, and not the $ amount (same as they've done with juniors, although $ amount wasn't a factor there)
I love the fact the name of the events now reflects the points, and not the $ amount (same as they've done with juniors, although $ amount wasn't a factor there)
Far more useful, IMO
Agreed, and it what the ATP do, the 2000/1000/500/250 levels reflect the points. I think it is the same at ATP Challenger level but would need to check - if not, it should be eta. yes it does.
Interestingly though, the ratios differ slightly - ATP offer the RU 60% of the winners points and so on down; the WTA will be offering 65% of the winners points to the RU. I presume it goes down at 65% ratio through the draw but havent done the maths.
So, a 1000 event RU gets 650 womens, 600 mens.
I presume if the ATP and WTA merge, they will equalise the points, not sure which way and dont really have a strong view, as it doesnt actually differ much; just irritating that it does, it would be nice to have consistency, not least as I would remember it all much better!!
-- Edited by JonH comes home on Tuesday 12th of December 2023 02:15:12 PM
-- Edited by Shhh on Wednesday 27th of December 2023 09:29:52 AM
this is interesting, thanks Shhh. The men have changed their points so they equal the WTA structure now - eg they are using a 65 percent ratio as opposed to 60 percent so a slam finalisr gets 1300 and not 1200 as before. So hopefully we will see mens and womens at each level effectively equal now?
Having had time to have a decent look at the new structure, it does appear a so much more logical points to prize money progression than before for the ITF events, with the old W25 ( title points 50, prize money $25K ) having been a particular anomaly for far too long and not addressed last year when the W40s were just shoved into what points space remained. I believe an enlightened forum member suggested years ago that the old W25 ( $25K prize money ) should have around 35 title points rather than 50 with 50 title points for a higher prize money event
Now ( taking the prize money from the ITF calendar ) we have:
W15 - title points 15, prize money $15K
W35 - title points 35, prize money $25K
W50 - title points 50, prize money $40K
W85 - title points 75, prize money $60K
W100 - title points 100, prize money $100K
Does anyone know if gong forward., the W15s and W35s will have their points added a week 'late' (as with the previous W15s and W25s )? I am guessing so.
And hallelujah for finally having the WTA tour event title points also reflect the names of the events ( the previous renaming in line with the ATP events but not making the relatively minor title points changes was just very silly ).
If anyone uses live-tennis.eu for live ranking the new changes to atp challenger points dont appear to have been updated yet.
Ignore this. I was looking at doubles. And confusingly ive just noticed the point increases for ATP events and decreases for Challengers is for Single events only. Very annoying that the two are not in sync.