Monte Carlo Pick 'Em. Scores and Analysis

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Monte Carlo Pick 'Em. Scores and Analysis

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

Sheddie, Sheddie, Sheddie...we're all in the top 100, there's only 42 players.

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

Here's confirmation of what Steven's already said, we're now in the lead having gained a whopping 2.24 points on AM in one match!

BritishTennis.net lead AndyMurray.com by an average of 57.72-55.58 points per team member after 52 matches.

Here's the top 10 and the website will be updated shortly

POS.	PLAYER	TEAM	TODAY	TOTAL	%

1	Speedy Hawk	AM	24	72	60.0%
2	silk	AM	16	71	59.2%
2	WallaceEMann	BT	24	71	59.2%
4	Chrissi	AM	16	69	57.5%
5	Richard Morris	AM	16	67	55.8%
6	Guy	BT	16	66	55.0%
7	Claire Morris	AM	16	65	54.2%
8	Kels	AM	16	64	53.3%
9	Vimto	AM	16	63	52.5%
10	Josh	BT	16	62	51.7%
10	Sheddie	BT	16	62	51.7%
10	Seagull	BT	16	62	51.7%

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

Voila!

One website update.

I'm sure Steven will be along soon with the breakdown for tomorrow, unles he wants me to copy and paste his AM.com post and take the credit?

-- Edited by imoen at 19:18, 2007-04-20

steven · Tennis legend

You'd have been very welcome to post it and 'take the credit', especially since I thought I'd pasted it in here already (it's easier to type it into AM.com then paste it here than the other way round, but that only works if I remember to paste it!), but here it is anyway:

Federer-Ferrero

15 BTs & 16 AMs went for Fed, nobody went for Ferrero.

Just to satisfy your curiosity, 1 BT (djmac) & 4 AMs (R Hulse, F Lamb, Wendy & Donna) went for Djokovic. 1 BT (JohnnyLad) & 3 AMs (Allan, AllyB & Sound) went for Gonzo. 1 BT (John) went for Tigger and 1 AM (murraymaniac) went for Dammit Gasquet, a gamble that wasn't all that far from coming off.

2.66 swing to BT if Fed wins (2.22 of which AM can get back if Fed goes on to win the Final), 0 swing if Ferrero wins.

Berdych-Nadal

16 BTs and 13 AMs went for Rafa, nobody went for Berdych.

2 BTs (imoen & John) & 10 AMs (silk, chrissi, Kels, Xenon, SarahWiser. Jambon, Wendy, Murraymaniac, Sound & Donna) went for Andy. 1 AM (shaun) went for Robredo.

5.55 swing to BT if Rafa wins (another 8.44 if he wins the Final), 0 swing if Berdych wins.

So if Fed beats Berdych or Ferrero plays Berdych in the Final, BT will win but it'll be quite close, while if Rafa goes on to win, BT will win by miles.

WallaceEMann · Lower Club Player

Woohoo, I'm the top BT

If the fake lefty beats Fed in the final, would I win outright?

-- Edited by WallaceEMann at 22:58, 2007-04-20

steven · Tennis legend

WallaceEMann wrote:
Woohoo, I'm the top BT
If the fake lefty beats Fed in the final, would I win outright?

Yes, very well done on 2nd place. smile

I'm afraid Speedy has Rafa beating Fed in the Final too, so if that's what happens, you'll miss out to him by 1 point.

aria81 · Club Coach

steven wrote:

aria81 wrote:
Berdych. Bloody guy can't win when he's supposed to and insists on winning when he should get beat.
Couldnae hae pit it better masel'!

It's like getting an email from my brother who writes like he speaks. wink

I don't know how we've managed to win this competition this time - it all looked so bad at the start of the week as well. Guess we don't suck that much afterall. wink

steven · Tennis legend

aria81 wrote:
It's like getting an email from my brother who writes like he speaks.

LOL but the thing is, though you probably don't realise it, you write a bit like I imagine you speak too. Just subtle things like "when he should get beat" (instead of "get beaten") which I like because it reminds me of the way my grandmother used to talk. (it's the Scottishness you share, not the age, obviously LOL)

So it inspired me to dredge up bit of the 'Scottish' I remember from 'the Broons' annuals she used to give me for Christmas. Apologies to everyone who had to put up with it!

aria81 wrote:
I don't know how we've managed to win this competition this time - it all looked so bad at the start of the week as well. Guess we don't suck that much afterall.

Well, the obvious answer is because Andy had to withdraw and there are always more 'heart over head' picks from them than from us. That is, apart our very own John who always picks Andy to beat Tigger in the latest round they can meet in. biggrin

In reality, the fact that Andy withdrew only really made a difference to the handful of extra AMs who picked Andy to beat Big Dave in R3 (since most of us had Andy down to win that one too), so Kohli going out in R3 didn't result in that much swing compared to Andy reaching the QFs.

Even if Andy had been able to play and had reached the QFs, it would all have come down to the Andy-Rafa QF, and my head says Rafa would have won that anyway.

-- Edited by steven at 13:12, 2007-04-21

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

Quick update after the first semi (which Fed won)

BritishTennis.net lead AndyMurray.com by an average of 71.06-66.25 points per team member after 53 matches.

In the individual the top16 remains the same but it's all change through the rest:

POS.

PLAYER

TEAM

TODAY

TOTAL

%

17	Drew	BT	16	74	54.4%
17	Granny	AM	16	74	54.4%
17	cazza99	AM	16	74	54.4%
17	Aria81	BT	16	74	54.4%
17	ForeverDelayed	BT	16	74	54.4%
17	Spraggz	AM	16	74	54.4%
23	Shaun7879	AM	16	73	53.7%
24	Vamos08	AM	16	72	52.9%
24	Mkkreuk	BT	16	72	52.9%
24	Dusty Dick	BT	16	72	52.9%
27	steven	BT	16	71	52.2%
28	Xenon21	AM	16	68	50.0%
29	SarahWiser	AM	16	67	49.3%

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

30	Jambondusoleil	AM	16	61	44.9%
31	Robert Hulse	AM	0	59	43.4%
31	Allan	AM	0	59	43.4%
31	Johnnylad	BT	0	59	43.4%
34	Imoen	BT	16	58	42.6%
35	AllyB	AM	0	56	41.2%
36	Fiona Lamb	AM	0	52	38.2%
37	John	BT	0	47	34.6%
37	djmac13	BT	0	47	34.6%
39	Wendy	AM	0	39	28.7%
39	murraymaniac	AM	0	39	28.7%
41	Sound (Lewis)	AM	0	33	24.3%
-	King Kong (#)	-	0.600000000000001	30.1	22.1%
42	Donna	AM	0	30	22.1%

steven · Tennis legend

We can't end up with a tie for 1st place this time, but what should we do if we get one in future? If I'm going to put a list of top 3s in all these pick 'em competitions on bt.net, it won't really work if we allow ties.

I think the first tiebreak should be number of correct picks then, if they were level on those too, the entrant who got the highest score in R1 (since it takes a fair bit of skill to get picks correct in that round and you only get 1 point for each one in your main total) then, if those were level too, the entrant who got the highest score in R2, and so on.

If two people get exactly the same scores in every round, then one of us should see that possibility a day or two before the Final and ask a tiebreak question, e.g. get the entrants concerned to pick the score in the Final.

It's a good idea to agree on what the tiebreaks will be before a tie actually happens, so what do people think of the suggestion above? Is is ok, or do you have an idea you think is fairer?

I'll post a poll when people have had a chance to give me any other options.

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

Penultimate update here after Rafa wins his semi, website update coming very soon.

BritishTennis.net lead AndyMurray.com by an average of 85.28-74.92 points per team member after 54 matches.

Top 10:

POS.	PLAYER	TEAM	TODAY	TOTAL	%

1	Speedy Hawk	AM	32	104	68.4%
2	WallaceEMann	BT	32	103	67.8%
3	Richard Morris	AM	32	99	65.1%
4	Guy	BT	32	98	64.5%
5	Claire Morris	AM	32	97	63.8%
6	Vimto	AM	32	95	62.5%
7	Josh	BT	32	94	61.8%
7	Sheddie	BT	32	94	61.8%
7	Seagull	BT	32	94	61.8%
10	english-boy	AM	32	93	61.2%
10	Goldfish	BT	32	93	61.2%

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

Full results available here

steven · Tennis legend

Well, we might have made a very dodgy start, but we ended up beating them by nearly 30x the margin we managed last time! biggrin

BritishTennis.net beat AndyMurray.com by an average of 108.39-89.58 points per team member after 55 matches.

Detailed round-by-round results can be found at http://www.britishtennis.net/Competitions.html (I'll create a hall of fame for the top 3 in each competition and put the links to each set of results in there before the number of results links on this page gets too big)

Summary results:

POS.	PLAYER	TEAM	TODAY	TOTAL	%

1	Speedy Hawk	AM	32	136	73.9%
2	WallaceEMann	BT	32	135	73.4%
3	Richard Morris	AM	32	131	71.2%
4	Guy	BT	32	130	70.7%
5	Claire Morris	AM	32	129	70.1%
6	Vimto	AM	32	127	69.0%
7	Seagull	BT	32	126	68.5%
7	Sheddie	BT	32	126	68.5%
9	Goldfish	BT	32	125	67.9%
10	Rochelle	BT	32	124	67.4%
11	Count Zero	BT	32	123	66.8%
12	Drew	BT	32	122	66.3%
12	cazza99	AM	32	122	66.3%
12	Aria81	BT	32	122	66.3%
12	ForeverDelayed	BT	32	122	66.3%
12	Spraggz	AM	32	122	66.3%
17	Vamos08	AM	32	120	65.2%
17	Mkkreuk	BT	32	120	65.2%
19	Robert Hulse	AM	32	107	58.2%
19	Allan	AM	32	107	58.2%
19	Johnnylad	BT	32	107	58.2%