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Theres not a rule, but it takes the p1ss a bit as he could have just entered originally and the orgainsers will know this and have local players to give them to. If he planned to play he would have just entered.

Im not convinced just scraping a seeding is a good idea anyway. If you are a 29-32 seeded player you are guaranteed to face a 1-4 seed in the 3rd round assuming you both get there. If you are unseeded you could face them in the first round, but also a 50% chance you avoid them until the quarter finals. Then again Alcaraz and Ruud are relatively unproven on grass.



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wolf wrote:

Theres not a rule, but it takes the p1ss a bit as he could have just entered originally and the orgainsers will know this and have local players to give them to. If he planned to play he would have just entered.

Im not convinced just scraping a seeding is a good idea anyway. If you are a 29-32 seeded player you are guaranteed to face a 1-4 seed in the 3rd round assuming you both get there. If you are unseeded you could face them in the first round, but also a 50% chance you avoid them until the quarter finals. Then again Alcaraz and Ruud are relatively unproven on grass.


 I understand your point - lets see what happens I guess 



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wolf wrote:

Theres not a rule, but it takes the p1ss a bit as he could have just entered originally and the orgainsers will know this and have local players to give them to. If he planned to play he would have just entered.

Im not convinced just scraping a seeding is a good idea anyway. If you are a 29-32 seeded player you are guaranteed to face a 1-4 seed in the 3rd round assuming you both get there. If you are unseeded you could face them in the first round, but also a 50% chance you avoid them until the quarter finals. Then again Alcaraz and Ruud are relatively unproven on grass.


 Fair points, other than it would a 1 to 8 seed in R3 if he just scraped into the seedings. 1 to 8 against 25 to 32 and 9 to 16 against 17 to 24 if the seeds reach R3.



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The tale of Andy & the 16-year-old first-time Grand Slam match-winner.   smile



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It's been an utter pleasure to see Andy play challengers in the UK in the grass season.

Two titles. Surbiton and Nottingham.

He's been a huge crowd draw, obviously, and got the papers all excited.

But (just my opinion), having seen a couple of the matches and - importantly - watched his practice sessions, he's been a LONG way off his previous levels. Basically, he's served his way out of trouble. Found the big serves when he needed them, which is a mark of a champion, but also because (assuming no shoulder issues) the serve is a shot that is the easiest to keep, even when the rest of you is crumbling a bit. I wish him all the best at Wimbledon, and hope I'm wrong, but I won't be setting my hopes too high (putting it mildly)

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Coup Droit wrote:

It's been an utter pleasure to see Andy play challengers in the UK in the grass season.

Two titles. Surbiton and Nottingham.

He's been a huge crowd draw, obviously, and got the papers all excited.

But (just my opinion), having seen a couple of the matches and - importantly - watched his practice sessions, he's been a LONG way off his previous levels. Basically, he's served his way out of trouble. Found the big serves when he needed them, which is a mark of a champion, but also because (assuming no shoulder issues) the serve is a shot that is the easiest to keep, even when the rest of you is crumbling a bit. I wish him all the best at Wimbledon, and hope I'm wrong, but I won't be setting my hopes too high (putting it mildly)


 I think we have the read the situation in a similar vein Coup.  His performance at Queens should tell us much more.



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Still he may, at least on his day. be not far off a top 10 grass court player in the world, as he talked about recently.

Wimbledon, alas, requires too many long matches, for him to be a real contender. But let's hope he leaves another memory or two from there this year.

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Lengthy interview with Andy in today's Standard.  Can't say I care for the reporter's style, which I ultimately found irritating - & she can't spell "misery"!  no



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Coup Droit wrote:

It's been an utter pleasure to see Andy play challengers in the UK in the grass season.

Two titles. Surbiton and Nottingham.

He's been a huge crowd draw, obviously, and got the papers all excited.

But (just my opinion), having seen a couple of the matches and - importantly - watched his practice sessions, he's been a LONG way off his previous levels. Basically, he's served his way out of trouble. Found the big serves when he needed them, which is a mark of a champion, but also because (assuming no shoulder issues) the serve is a shot that is the easiest to keep, even when the rest of you is crumbling a bit. I wish him all the best at Wimbledon, and hope I'm wrong, but I won't be setting my hopes too high (putting it mildly)


 I think we have the read the situation in a similar vein Coup.  His performance at Queens should tell us much more.


 I suppose it tells us that you need to be competing with the best to beat them? I was a little surprised he dropped back down to challengers on grass. Would say that tactic didnt work for him? Not sure though.



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7 years ago

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I watched this on holiday in Italy with my family, my wife had just completed chemotherapy and we all went away. I cried watching this then and now - ahead of his two Wimbledon titles and the US Open, I believe this was Andys most memorable moment.

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7 years ago

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I watched this on holiday in Italy with my family, my wife had just completed chemotherapy and we all went away. I cried watching this then and now - ahead of his two Wimbledon titles and the US Open, I believe this was Andys most memorable moment.


 I remember watching this and wanting them both to win, cried my heart out!

 



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Amazing battle - makes you remember why Andy and Delpo are such stars of the sport - add to this Andys Davis cup and you just go what a career

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Andy won this event without playing his best til that final - he just fought and fought

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The Guardian article says that Andy's request not to be put on last, on Centre Court, every day, was ignored and cost him

"Andy Murray has said he asked Wimbledon organisers this year not to schedule him as the final match on Centre Court every day because of concerns over late finishes. Wimbledon, however, did not grant the request and late scheduling had a significant bearing on his exit from the Championships.

"I had multiple conversations before the start of the tournament and asked not to play the third match every single day because thats what is going to happen with the 1.30 start and the breaks in between the matches, Murray said. The roof, in my opinion, was there for when it rains that there is always matches that can go on for the fans and for TV and everything and its great.

It feels like its getting used now for darkness to play matches later in the evening and when you get that third slot you have no way of practising on an indoor grass court. Its not possible. You spend your whole time preparing for Wimbledon I skipped the French Open to prepare to play my best tennis at Wimbledon but then youre playing every match under different conditions than what youre preparing for."

www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/aug/28/andy-murray-claims-his-wimbledon-scheduling-request-was-ignored



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Tuesday 29th of August 2023 05:29:57 AM

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Andy has now won 200 slam matches, the 9th man to do so
www.atptour.com/en/news/murray-moutet-us-open-2023-tuesday

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