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I dont know how helpful Wayne Sleeps article is as I would imagine they have very different types of hip injuries, Andys secondary to repetitive impact and joint compression, Waynes due to hyper flexibility and repeatedly going beyond the normal range of movement of the joint. I dont know a male ballet dancer who hasnt had bilateral joint replacements but my sample size is n=1. It is quite possible that Andy's options are not limited to a hip replacement.

I know we have had this discussion before but personally I feel for the players protection they should move away from playing so much Tennis on hard courts. So much is done in other sports to reduce injury. Tennis players fortunately are not prone to head or spinal injuries but very much in the way fast bowlers now have their bowling actions remodelled to prevent injury and prolong careers, a broad approach to injury prevention is an area that the ATP should invest in. A comprehensive assessment of major joint loading on each surface is where I would start.

Moving the US Open to Green Clay would be my next admittedly controversial step, a surface on which the the stepford nans of Florida play on from Dawn till Dusk.

Regardless I share Andys desperation for him to find away back onto court to enjoy the game he loves in pain free competition even if it is not destroying himself week in week out to be the worlds number 1. Hev (sorry Henry) and Kyle definitely need doubles partners for Wimbledon.



-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Wednesday 3rd of January 2018 10:04:01 AM

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I did think for a moment that Heather's new nickname was Henry !

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JonH wrote:

One of the articles I read today also suggested that Ivan lendl quite possibly left his role as Andy's coach because they disagreed over the route forward...Ivan obviously supported the surgery route and presumably felt his position was compromised by Andy going a different path.

Which brings me to Jamie Delgado and the other Team Murray members. I dont know how they get remunerated, but hopefully they get at least a base salary whilst Andy isnt playing? Dont know whether Andy would top that up but if they are losing out on percentages of prize money (which is how I think they would normally get compensated) then presumably Jamie and the others will be losing out significantly. Hopefully none of them are struggling at the moment and/or Andy is taking care of them in some way?


 But I suspect that if they don't need to be around for Andy right now, it would be quite easy for most of them to get work training lower level people who would probably feel incredibly privileged to be trained by someone from Andy's team.



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Nishikori has withdrawn from Melbourne, shame and his injury has been long term now.

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Just in - Andy has withdrawn from AO, and is heading home.

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Just saw that - good decision. Wish him well.

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Today's article by Kevin Mitchell in the guardian makes sobering reading. I haven't got a link on my phone but it's online on their tennis page.

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JonH wrote:

Today's article by Kevin Mitchell in the guardian makes sobering reading. I haven't got a link on my phone but it's online on their tennis page.


Barry Flatman is reporting in The Sunday Times today that Andy may need double hip surgery!  He apparently told Pat Cash about the problem when they met in Abu Dhabi at the end of December:

"I was talking to Andy in Abu Dhabi and told him I was getting pain in one of my hips and he told me his problems were in both hips," said Cash, who was at the Mubudala World Tennis Championship as a tournament ambassador. "He was pretty open about it and I thought he was resigned to the fact."

The closing paragraph:

Broadcaster Andrew Castle, who underwent surgery during and after his tennis career, said: "There is little chance of [Murray] challenging for major titles after hip surgery. If it is a full hip replacement, I cannot see any way he would be able to face Nadal, Dimitrov, Djokovic and Federer. When the ball comes to you, it is OK. But the ball doesn't come to you when you are playing these guys."

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JonH wrote:

Today's article by Kevin Mitchell in the guardian makes sobering reading. I haven't got a link on my phone but it's online on their tennis page.


Barry Flatman is reporting in The Sunday Times today that Andy may need double hip surgery!  He apparently told Pat Cash about the problem when they met in Abu Dhabi at the end of December:

"I was talking to Andy in Abu Dhabi and told him I was getting pain in one of my hips and he told me his problems were in both hips," said Cash, who was at the Mubudala World Tennis Championship as a tournament ambassador. "He was pretty open about it and I thought he was resigned to the fact."

The closing paragraph:

Broadcaster Andrew Castle, who underwent surgery during and after his tennis career, said: "There is little chance of [Murray] challenging for major titles after hip surgery. If it is a full hip replacement, I cannot see any way he would be able to face Nadal, Dimitrov, Djokovic and Federer. When the ball comes to you, it is OK. But the ball doesn't come to you when you are playing these guys."

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Have just returned home from Sainsbury's with my hard copy of the paper.  There's also a two-page spread in the News Review section of the main paper by Simon Barnes headed "Team Murray's torment... ...and triumph", the triumph bit covering his brother-in-law's (Scott Sears') solo conquest of the South Pole (article contributed by Martin Hemming).



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Stircrazy wrote:
Have just returned home from Sainsbury's with my hard copy of the paper.  There's also a two-page spread in the News Review section of the main paper by Simon Barnes headed "Team Murray's torment... ...and triumph", the triumph bit covering his brother-in-law's (Scott Sears') solo conquest of the South Pole (article contributed by Martin Hemming).

 Here's the link to the online version of that article. It's in two parts (different headlines than SC quoted although the link on the review page is the same)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news-review/andy-murray-contemplates-the-end-of-his-career-f99rvqk8v

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news-review/scott-sears-conquers-the-south-pole-9bvm35png



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Stircrazy wrote:
Have just returned home from Sainsbury's with my hard copy of the paper.  There's also a two-page spread in the News Review section of the main paper by Simon Barnes headed "Team Murray's torment... ...and triumph", the triumph bit covering his brother-in-law's (Scott Sears') solo conquest of the South Pole (article contributed by Martin Hemming).

 Here's the link to the online version of that article. It's in two parts (different headlines than SC quoted although the link on the review page is the same)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news-review/andy-murray-contemplates-the-end-of-his-career-f99rvqk8v

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news-review/scott-sears-conquers-the-south-pole-9bvm35png


I didn't bother with links.  I have a subscription to the ST which gives me full access to the site & I assumed the articles would be behind the paywall.    



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A paragraph from an article by Stu Fraser in today's Times under the heading "Pat Cash 'wrong' over Andy Murray's hip problems":

A spokesperson for Murray insisted, though, that his left hip is unaffected and the comment to Cash was more a humorous reference to his whole body hurting at this stage in his career. Murray is back at his home in Surrey after withdrawing from the Australian Open. The 30-year-old is considering whether to undergo surgery on the right-hip issue which has plagued him for seven months.



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Sky news reporting that Andy has had surgery and hopes to be back playing for the grass court season.

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Apparently this happened a week ago amidst a media blackout.  He also had minor groin surgery in December.  This article by Mike Dickson in the Mail suggests that Andy is upbeat about his future and as determined as ever to continue his career.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-5246483/Andy-Murray-sets-Wimbledon-return-date-hip-surgery.html

 



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Bob in Spain wrote:

Sky news reporting that Andy has had surgery and hopes to be back playing for the grass court season.

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Apparently this happened a week ago amidst a media blackout.  He also had minor groin surgery in December.  This article by Mike Dickson in the Mail suggests that Andy is upbeat about his future and as determined as ever to continue his career.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-5246483/Andy-Murray-sets-Wimbledon-return-date-hip-surgery.html

 



-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Monday 8th of January 2018 01:21:55 PM


 bbc article by simon fuller confirms the above Andy says his daughter watching him practice makes him happy



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Ideal scenario is that Andy makes a tentative comeback in the 2nd half of the season, gets to precisely 54 in the world rankings by the end of the year wink before using that as a platform to get back to the top in 2019.



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