Boggo's competitors week 44

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

RE: Boggo's competitors week 44

RobC · All-time great

A pretty good Tuesday for Boggo's ranking: Moodie, Bolelli, Berlocq and Fraile are all on the next flights home, significantly reducing the size of the chasing pack.

Not quite so good ahead of him: Schuettler and Muller both advance though only by a point or two.

A win tomorrow could send Alex up to 115th, but Kendrick, Hartfield, Pashanski and Vicente could all go straight back past if they win as well.

Gabashvilli takes on Johansson in the "Garden Shed grudge match" in Paris, and will overtake should he win. Saretta is a danger in Brazil.

RobC · All-time great

Overnight, Saretta won his match so is still a threat.

Kendrick & Querrey advance.

Hartfield was knocked out in Brazil.

RobC · All-time great

UMF's shed is looking safe for now: Gabashvili's down 1-4 in the first set against Johansson.

murrayman650 · ATP level

get the shed ready

gasgv 1 set up 7-6

RobC · All-time great

murrayman650 wrote:

get the shed ready

gasgv 1 set up 7-6

It can get cold in a shed this time of year.....

I'll want to see photos!

Count Zero · Tennis legend

unfortunaly J has a break in the 2nd set, come on Gabby, keep fighting.

it has turned cold recently, i hope the shed has decent double glazing

Count Zero · Tennis legend

couple of really close games there, but J serving to the take it into a decider

steven · Tennis legend

RobC wrote:

Simone Bolelli got as far as the qualifying round in Basel last week, was beaten, but then got into the main draw as a lucky loser. He was beaten in the first round of the main draw.
Now I had him down as winning 10 points for that week: 5 for making the qualifying round, and another 5 for getting into the main draw, leaving him on 361 points - 6 up on the week.

However, both the ATP and steveg have him down as 356 points - which implies that he only got 5 points last week, and a look at the ATP points breakdown confirms this.

Steveg shows Basel qualifying as 1 point for a R2 defeat, 5 for a qualifying round defeat and 10 for qualifying

Does anyone know the rules for lucky losers? I've seen LLs in Masters Series get 43 points (8 points for reaching the qualifying round, then 35 points for winning R1, so those points do count in some tournaments?

The rule for lucky losers is that:

- you DO get main draw R1 points (5 in this case)

- you DON'T get extra points for qualifying (10 in Basel)

- you DO get points for reaching the final qualifying round (assuming you did get there and LL places didn't go back to the round before) but only in events where these points are awarded, i.e. Grand Slams, AMS and International Series Gold events

Basel is just a plain International Series event (you can tell by looking at steveg's schedule, though the dead giveaway is that there are three qualifying rounds - there are only two in ISG events) so there are no points for reaching the final qualifying round in Basel.

Hence the total of 5 points for Bolelli was correct and there was just a little error on the steveg site when it said that you got extra points for reaching the final qualifying round.

steven · Tennis legend

Gabashvili breaks in the 3rd

Count Zero · Tennis legend

3-0 up now. the shed beckons, and probably at this monment umf is blissfully unaware :)

RobC · All-time great

steven wrote:

The rule for lucky losers is that:
- you DO get main draw R1 points (5 in this case)

- you DON'T get extra points for qualifying (10 in Basel)

- you DO get points for reaching the final qualifying round (assuming you did get there and LL places didn't go back to the round before) but only in events where these points are awarded, i.e. Grand Slams, AMS and International Series Gold events

Basel is just a plain International Series event (you can tell by looking at steveg's schedule, though the dead giveaway is that there are three qualifying rounds - there are only two in ISG events) so there are no points for reaching the final qualifying round in Basel.

Hence the total of 5 points for Bolelli was correct and there was just a little error on the steveg site when it said that you got extra points for reaching the final qualifying round.

Oh good - so I had my calculations right, but I'd been misled by the SteveG points schedule..so Basel was an €850K International series event = $1million event = 250 points, as opposed to a $800K International gold event such as Vienna. And Steveg had put it down as the latter?

RobC · All-time great

Count Zero wrote:

3-0 up now. the shed beckons, and probably at this monment umf is blissfully unaware :)

shame for Alex's ranking tho..... but I think the sacrifice is worthwhile

Count Zero · Tennis legend

RobC wrote:

Count Zero wrote:

3-0 up now. the shed beckons, and probably at this monment umf is blissfully unaware :)

shame for Alex's ranking tho..... but I think the sacrifice is worthwhile

no i agree there, normally i hate seeing players over take alex, but of course there is the expection to make the rule. I dont think even Alex will mind in this case.

Arn't we due a big frost tonight? Best get the termal undies out David.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Could be even colder in 40 nights' time