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Here's this fortnight's table (c) GC77. 



 



Running|-------Start of week-------|Running So   18th  Def1  Def2  19th
Rank  rank      name          points Points Far  Result           Result
 5     6    Nikolay Davydenko   2175  2590 450-out110    35         75
 6    10    Andy Roddick        1890  2585  700    60     5         40
 7     5    Tommy Robredo       2190  2190 150-out 40   150         20
 8     7    James Blake         2085  2085 250-out 20   250         15
 9     8    Marcos Baghdatis    1922  1952 35-out  16     5         15
10     9    Radek Stepanek      1915  1880  out    75    35         60  
11    12    Fernando Gonzalez   1850  1850 75-out  55    75         50
12    12    Mario Ancic         1835  1800  out    55    35         20
13    14    Tomas Berdych       1660  1735 150-out 25    75         15
14    16    Tommy Haas          1525  1700 250-out 100   75         75
15    13    David Ferrer        1675  1675 75-out  15    75          5
16    19    Andy Murray         1300  1400 150-out 40    50         21
17    15    Jarkko Nieminen     1610  1365  5-out  75   250         75
18    18    Juan Carlos Ferrero 1330  1360 35-out  40     5         40
19    17    Lleyton Hewitt      1515  1315 250-out 40   450         40
20    24    Gaston Gaudio       1175  1245 75-out  20     5         15
21    23    Novak Djokovic      1183  1183 75-out   8    75          5
22    25    Dmitry Tursunov     1125  1165 75-out  60    35         60
23    20    Nicolas Kiefer      1275  1125  out     0   150          0
24    54    Mikhail Youzhny      745  1120 450-out 60    75         40
25    28    Agustin Calleri     1085  1085  5-out  15     5         15
26    27    Jose Acasuso        1110  1080  5-out  15    35         15
27    29    Richard Gasquet     1060  1060 150-out 15   150         15
28    22    Dominik Hrbaty      1200  1055  5-out  75   150         63
29    26    Fernando Verdasco   1115  1040 75-out  25   150         25
30    31    Gael Monfils        1005  1035 35-out  20     5         15
31    30    Olivier Rochus      1010  1010 75-out  75    75         60
32    32    Igor Andreev         985   950  out     5    35          5
33    37    Juan Ignacio Chela   940   940  5-out  15     5         15
34    35    Jonas Bjorkman       953   938 35-out   5    50          5
35    38    Kristof Vliegen      940   930  5-out  15     -          5



US Open Entry Points: W 1000| RU 700| SF 450| Q250 | 150| 75|35| 5| (q:15 8 4)



-- Edited by mkkreuk at 20:17, 2006-09-04
-- Edited by RobC at 07:50, 2006-09-05
-- Edited by RobC at 07:55, 2006-09-05
-- Edited by RobC at 08:11, 2006-09-07
-- Edited by Madeline at 08:55, 2006-09-07

-- Edited by RobC at 08:10, 2006-09-08

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So Andy gains a place as Hewitt drops out of the top 20. Other big losers are Blake, Ginepri (who's fallen off the table to 44th from 21st), Hrbaty, Gasquet, Malisse and of course Agassi,  who's now sitting around 175- 185th in the world, as he loses 700 of his 925 points.


No- one overtakes Andy, but big gainers are  Gaudio, Calleri, Acasuso, Monfils and Chela, who have already made up for the points they're defending after going out in R1 last year.


Pretty much anyone in the tournament can overtake, as you get 1,000 points for winning the tournament. No- one can overtake unless they get to the fourth round, though. Only Gaudio and Djokovic can do that.


More detailed pinning strategis will, I'm sure come from Imoen later, as will many changes to this and the other tables.



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Rob wrote....

Pretty much anyone in the tournament can overtake, as you get 1,000 points for a first round win. No- one can overtake unless they get to the fourth round, though. Only Gaudio and Djokovic can do that.

Explain 1000 pts for a first round win please

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Drew wrote:

Rob wrote....

Pretty much anyone in the tournament can overtake, as you get 1,000 points for a first round win. No- one can overtake unless they get to the fourth round, though. Only Gaudio and Djokovic can do that.

Explain 1000 pts for a first round win please

too many hours spent looking at spreadsheets. entry corrected.

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Andy needs to get to the fourth round to be able to overtake anyone. Only Ferrero is within range if he does. A Quarter- final place will mean  Haas and Niemenen are in view. A Semi- final  slot brings Ferrer and Berdych into range.


If he makes the final, a top- ten place is possible, with Baghdatis, Roddick, Stepanek, Blake, Ancic and Gonzalez in line, and a US Open Champion Murray would be close to(possibly in) the top 5, with Davydenko and Robredo at that distance away.



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I've chickened out this week and am waiting for the ATP to update before doing my table so I'll check against Rob's tomorrow morning sometime and point out any mistakes I spot!


As for detailed analysis, that will also have to wait until I've done my table, but i promise to come up with the goods in the morning!



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imoen wrote:

As for detailed analysis, that will also have to wait until I've done my table, but i promise to come up with the goods in the morning!

From the look of things, both Andy and Greg are pretty safe for most of week 1. However Greg & Boggo need every bit of sharpened metal we can find on Monday & Tuesday. Especially if Tim beats Greg.

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Andy's defending 50 points, I deduce from that he played Qualies last year?!

Blime, what a difference a year makes!

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Andy's defending 50 points, I deduce from that he played Qualies last year?!

Blime, what a difference a year makes!


Yep, it's incredible the rise he's made. Go Andy!!


I'm currently working on my table but the ATP site is being especially slow and the tennisfacts...well I'm not sure what they've done but its all wrong!



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imoen wrote:


nads wrote:

Andy's defending 50 points, I deduce from that he played Qualies last year?!

Blime, what a difference a year makes!


Yep, it's incredible the rise he's made. Go Andy!!


I'm currently working on my table but the ATP site is being especially slow and the tennisfacts...well I'm not sure what they've done but its all wrong!





Tennisfacts have forgotten to add any points from New Haven (?!) and have also forgotten that Toronto and Cincinatti are compulsory tournaments.  I've emailed Fredrik, so you never know, he might sort it......



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Tennisfacts have forgotten to add any points from New Haven (?!) and have also forgotten that Toronto and Cincinatti are compulsory tournaments.  I've emailed Fredrik, so you never know, he might sort it......




Well, on top of that, they have the wrong people defending the wrong number of points?! This is especially annoying as the 'results history' page on the ATP, normally my lifesaver is 'currently unavailable' ! Oh well.


By the way, look on the steveg site for the tournies defended next week, it's under 'points schedule 2006' and is very good!



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The ATP site is a right pain in the posterior this morning. . .


I pretty gave up on tennisfacts a few weeks ago, and take the figures from the ATP, although tennisfacts do seem to get the points being defended pretty much correct.


With the ATP as it is this morning goodness knows when I will be happy with my spreadsheet!


 



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Well, as Rob has shown. This week we once again see both the advantages and disadvantages of being so high up in the rankings. No more can Andy make a 10 place jump by winning in the first round, he must get to the third round to draw level with Ferrero (who will probably have jumped further ahead by then anyway) and the fourth to move past Nieminen. BUT all that (and andy overtaking any more people) depnds on them going out before they get beyond reach. So, any spare moment you have...put a few pins in those above Andy.


On the other hand, we also see the advantage of being so in the lofty reaches of the ranking system. Fewer people can overtake by winning the first round!


As Rob said Gaudio and Djokovic are the first ones who can overtake, and it would take them until the fourth round to do so, Plus that's presuming Andy goes out in round 1. So pins into them but at the moment there is nothing much we can do as too much depends on what happens in the first round, we will know more once a few rounds are complete.


So head on over to Tim, Greg and Alex to help them out with all that spare malice.


I expect that the US open will not change Andy's ranking spot...unless he has a terrible tournament or an extraordinary one.



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The ATP site is a right pain in the posterior this morning. . .


I pretty gave up on tennisfacts a few weeks ago, and take the figures from the ATP, although tennisfacts do seem to get the points being defended pretty much correct.


With the ATP as it is this morning goodness knows when I will be happy with my spreadsheet!


 





Yeah, that's what I've been doing but the ATP site this morning keeps telling me it has too much traffic on the player pages


Oh well, I'm sure my spreadsheet will sort itself out eventually!



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First post updated after tennisfacts and steveg rankings have been posted, and with help from Madeline.


Only one material change: Tursunov was defending less points than I'd thought, pushing him up the rankings, otherwise, there's just a bunch of 18th & 19th results, which don't make a difference in Grand Slam week. Will probably have to update again once the ATP points breakdown is working again.


 



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