Andy's Competitors Week 28 (Newport etc..)redux

sklsuperhoops · Social player

RE: Andy's Competitors Week 28 (Newport etc..)redux

RobC · All-time great

A double helping of bad news:

Ramirez-Hidalgo is already a set up, having beaten the Swiss Junior champion (& former world junior #1), Robin Roshardt 6-1 in the first.

Come on Robin! do it for Tim!

Madeline has pointed out that Robin Soderling's 18th score is a 5, rather than a 15. This means that he only needs to win his R1 match to move ahead of Andy, and that Andy needs to win one more round than Robin, and at least make the quarters to hold him off

Drew · Jul 10, 2006

Volandri also out

RobC · All-time great

Robin Roshardt serving to stay in the match at 4-5. He's pulled back from a break down at 0-3 already this set.

-- Edited by RobC at 14:16, 2006-07-10

RobC · All-time great

Tim loses his first place of the week: Ramirez-Hidalgo goes up one higher. Tim down to 62nd

RobC · All-time great

Things aren't looking good for Andy's 38th place. Soderling is a set & a break up.

Drew · Jul 10, 2006

Sanguinetti is out also.....one of Tims threats gone

Drew · Jul 10, 2006

RobC wrote:

Things aren't looking good for Andy's 38th place. Soderling is a set & a break up.

Soderling wins 6-2 6-3 !

No probs for Andy as is he is going to win Newport of course

RobC · All-time great

Drew wrote:

No probs for Andy as is he is going to win Newport of course

Absolutely!

He now needs to reach the quarters just to overtake Soderling again

Pashanski was a slight threat for Tim & Greg also.

-- Edited by RobC at 16:10, 2006-07-10

Drew · Jul 10, 2006

Davydenko 5-2 up on A Martin

.....nope check that...now 5-4....arrghhhh cmon the Russian !

Drew · Jul 10, 2006

A Martin is all but beaten 1 set down and 5-0 in the 2nd.....a distant Murray challenger !

RobC · All-time great

Drew wrote:

A Martin is all but beaten 1 set down and 5-0 in the 2nd.....a distant Murray challenger !

one more out of the way!

nads · Junior player

RobC wrote:

Great News! Andy is 36th in the world, not 37th as we'd been expecting!!!!
It seems our friends at Tennisfacts missed the fact that Nicolas Massu was defending 75 points from Gstaad last year as well as 35 from Wimbledon, which means he tumbles down to 37th, and Andy's up at 36th!!! tables & commentary to be updated shortly!

Yes, there were a couple of others that were also different from our list from last week:

- Vliegen and Mathieu are on 920 points, with ATP listing Mathieu first (p33) and Vliegen p34
- Massu is on 890 not 955, therefore p37 below Andy and Novak

- ATP lists Novak Djokovic (p35) above Andy (p36) - still one more than expected

- Soderling is on 848 not 858
- Shirapan and Serra are both on 845, we had 860 for Serra, and ATP lists Shirapan (p40) before Serra (p41)
- Benneteau is on 711 not 712 points (no place change)
- Volandri is on 665 not 676 (no place change)
- Sanguinetti and Rochus are both on 585, we have that correct, but ATP have them in the other order (Sanguinetti p64, Rochus p65)

nads · Junior player

Greenleaf wrote:

He will not get the five from Newport. His 19th best as of now, Vancouver(16 points) will become his 18th best.

Thank you Greenleaf I think I finally get it:

Starting at 901, - 60 from Aptos which are replaced by new 18th tourney e.g. + 16 Vancouver. no points for Newport yet, unless he makes more than 16, in which case they will replace the 16 from Vancouver.

Got it!

It was far simpler, when he did not have any points to defend, and no more than 18 results

But hang on - in that case the table is wrong: 18th result should read 16 and 19th result should read 15 (from Barcelona according to ATP site)

-- Edited by nads at 21:08, 2006-07-10

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

I think you are getting ahead of yourself, nads. The current 18th score is 21 from Mons, which IF HE WAS NOT DEFENDING would be replaced by this tournament if the score is more than 21.

His current points total INCLUDES the score he is defending, 60 from Aptos, but this is about to drop out, leaving him with only 17 counting tournaments in the total. So you have to add in the current 19th, 16 from Vancouver, which now becomes his 18th highest score, to replace the points that are dropping off, unless he scores more than 16 this tournament in which case this tournament is the one that replaces the one dropping off.

That's a bit involved I know, but I can't find an easier way to describe it!