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Andy Parker


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I won't copy medewey's post - only to say thanks for the information, but for me, the rulebook still sounds very complicated and hardly reads as simple and clear if more than one player withdraws from the main draw - all looks like legalese drawn up by lawyers, so that only lawyers and the body making the rules are crystal clear on how it works.

I think it kind of suggests that if three players withdraw, there still has to be a random element to entry into the main draw, but I'm glad as an ex-journalist that I wasn't presented with this document and expected to make an article and explain to readers how it worked. I would have definitely used my phone a friend in that case.

What I do think I remember is that when 2 players withdraw, the top lucky loser may still not be selected, and I seem to remember this happening, but don't ask me which Grand Slam and which year.

Calling on all tennis boffins on here to explain what happens if there are:

(a) 2 withdrawals from the main draw meaning 2 lucky loser slots
(b) 3 withdrawals from the main draw meaning 3 lucky loser slots
(c) 4 withdrawals or more from the main draw meaning 4 or more lucky loser slots.

I just know that there are several people who post on here who have encyclopaedic knowledge of tennis who can explain this in simple language.

Alternatively maybe I'm just a simple man and this document from mdewey's post is clear to everyone else.

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the addict wrote:
Kennykoalabear wrote:

Is qualifying shown on sky this year?

 Yes, Sky SpPorts + according to this schedule https://www.skysports.com/watch/tennis-on-sky

 Fantastic! Thanks !



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Jodie is underway and has won the first game.

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Andy it's actually quite a straightforward rule by tennis standards.

Once the final round of qualifying is completed, the four highest ranked final round losers are put in a draw and randomly drawn out the hat from 1-4. That is the order that they will take a lucky loser spot should any become available.

So no, the highest seed may not get in, they could come out the hat fourth, and there be only two withdrawals. This rule was designed to stop players basically tanking their final round qualifying match if they knew they were guaranteed getting in anyway.

In the event there were 5 withdrawals from the main draw by the end of round 1 in total in this scenario, all four would get into the main draw, taking the slots by order they came out the hat. The fifth spot would automatically go to the fifth highest ranked final round loser in qualifying.

This is how it works if there are zero, one or two players who withdraw from the main draw in the period while qualifying is taking place.

If however before qualifying has finished, there are already 3 lucky loser spots available (because 3 players withdraw in the time between qualifying starting and finishing), the highest *5* ranked final losers go into the lucky loser draw.

This is what the "number of lucky loser spots available plus two" bit of the rule means.



-- Edited by PaulM on Monday 18th of August 2025 03:27:03 PM

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Thanks Paul - beuatifully and succinctly explained. I almost feel I should print your reply off, so that I know where to read, when this situation arises again. Well done for a brilliantly worded explanation.



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Jodie is the one applying the pressure, she gets 40-0* at 4-3* but Tig (as she keeps doing) finds the good serves to get out of trouble.

Just a little frustration creeping in with Jodie now which is worrying as we know where that leads.

*4-4

But that's a very straightforward hold to love with a couple of aces. Tig inching further and further back on the return position.

5-4*



-- Edited by PaulM on Monday 18th of August 2025 03:46:52 PM

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First set 6-4 to Jodie - broke Tig at 5-4.



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Pressure paid off. A great scrambling point for 30-30*, huge return off a second serve into the feet gets set point, and Tig double faults.

Keep this level Jodie. It's good tennis.

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Noticed that Tig hasn't played on a hard court since early Feb. Jodie serving well.

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Not watching at the moment, but I see Jodie only conceded 4 points on serve in the first set, with 6 aces. Looks like a vast improvement from recent matches.

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Jodie is now a break up in the second -2-0.

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The Romanian forum will be tearing their hair out. Tig has absolutely blown herself up here. Double faults where the second serve attempt is closer to the baseline than the service box.

*4-0 Jodie.

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Jodie wins 6-4 6-0 - has she ever had an easier second set?



-- Edited by Andy Parker on Monday 18th of August 2025 04:18:35 PM



-- Edited by Andy Parker on Monday 18th of August 2025 04:19:08 PM

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Well, well !

QR1:- Jodie Burrage (GBR) WR149 def Patricia Tig (ROU) WR218 6-4 6-0  biggrin



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Woohoo.

Given a helping hand by her opponent from 5-4* in the first no question, but she was positive, serving very well, and executed everything that was in her control nicely. Lovely to see her playing with a bit of self confidence.

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