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seagull · Hall of fame

Entry Week 32 - 04/08/2025

seagull · Hall of fame

Points Defences This Week:

Mens:

75 - Fearnley
25 - Loffhagen
16 - Harris
12 - Choinski, Jubb
10 - Draper
9 - Pinnington-Jones
6 - Clarke
3 - Monday, Simkiss, Crawford, Jones
1 - Hudd, Brady, Gray, Wendelken, Basing, Paris, Dhokia

Womens:

120 - Boulter
35 - Kartal
18 - Dart
8 - McDonald
4 - John-Baptiste
2 - Daley
1 - Barnes

seagull · Hall of fame

Have to say I'm surprised that JPJ is playing clay court challengers instead of being on hard in the States?

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Interested any JPJ and Jay are on clay this week- theyd have both got onto Chicago and prep for US Open qualies etc .

Var · Futures qualifying

Not GB but just wondering if Serena might pop up somewhere on the US hard court swing? On Insta she has been working out in the gym and now back on court in a practice session. Maybe the invitation mixed doubles pre US Open. Or she could just be teasing as she has done that before! www.instagram.com/stories/serenawilliams/3679763714853082357

-- Edited by Var on Saturday 19th of July 2025 07:08:10 AM

seagull · Hall of fame

Updated with withdrawals

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

We've seen a lot of Toronoto/Montreal drop outs so far; as Cinci backs straight onto those events, be interesting to see if those who go deeper in Canada also then pull out of Cinci as well.

I am expecting to see some pull out

indiana · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
We've seen a lot of Toronoto/Montreal drop outs so far; as Cinci backs straight onto those events, be interesting to see if those who go deeper in Canada also then pull out of Cinci as well.

I am expecting to see some pull out

Yet this year Canada and Cincy are spread over 3 weeks rather than just two. Are the fields bigger this year, ie. an extra round?

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
We've seen a lot of Toronoto/Montreal drop outs so far; as Cinci backs straight onto those events, be interesting to see if those who go deeper in Canada also then pull out of Cinci as well.

I am expecting to see some pull out
Yet this year Canada and Cincy are spread over 3 weeks rather than just two. Are the fields bigger this year, ie. an extra round?

They are both 96 fields, like IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome.

So hence the longer duration and putting one starting on the finals day of the other. The finals are also both midweek, Monday for one and Thursday for the other.

Bit of a dogs breakfast really

indiana · Tennis legend

It is rather.

Goodness knows what they are going to do with the rankings updates? In theory, as per the ATP site, and other sites, players still have points dropping off weekly - on 04/08, 11/08 and 18/08.

Mervatron2 · Challenger level

What are Jay and Jack doing on clay two weeks before the US OPEN ? Bizarre.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Mervatron2 wrote:
What are Jay and Jack doing on clay two weeks before the US OPEN ? Bizarre.

Yeah, I made the same comment above! Bizarre to me, at least, but there may be some method!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

JPJ and Jay are both on clay the week before and Jack is in Todi the week after this, which is presumably also clay ?

octagonclock · Improver

indiana wrote:
It is rather.

Goodness knows what they are going to do with the rankings updates? In theory, as per the ATP site, and other sites, players still have points dropping off weekly - on 04/08, 11/08 and 18/08.

Entry list releases seem to have essentially treated it as if Toronto is a 1 week and Cinci is a 2 week event, so I wonder if we'll essentially see 1 ranking update in the middle of the three weeks that, in essence, backdates the Toronto results as if they had happened earlier, which I think is similar to what happens with the current midweek to midweek structure of the Asian swing. God knows though, it's an obtuse nightmare of a situation.

stevemcqueen · Futures level

JonH comes home wrote:
indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
We've seen a lot of Toronoto/Montreal drop outs so far; as Cinci backs straight onto those events, be interesting to see if those who go deeper in Canada also then pull out of Cinci as well.

I am expecting to see some pull out
Yet this year Canada and Cincy are spread over 3 weeks rather than just two. Are the fields bigger this year, ie. an extra round?
They are both 96 fields, like IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome.
So hence the longer duration and putting one starting on the finals day of the other. The finals are also both midweek, Monday for one and Thursday for the other.
Bit of a dogs breakfast really

Maybe it is a bit of a dog's brekky in that it is a change from what we are used to, but I do not criticise the ATP for trying something new. For a 96 draw, one week is too short, and two weeks is too long. I don't see a problem with the finals being mid week. It may even help TV viewing figures. If it doesn't work out, they can revert to the previous format. If it is a success, maybe IW & Miami and Madrid & Rome might move to similar formats.