British Tennis Forum - Celebrating 20 Years!

Hoppy wrote:

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Possibly but there is so much negativity I sometimes cant resist. Why assume its arrogance that stops him reacting in the way youre used to and not just a different personality. Sorry if I was unfair, but I felt your comment was a little unfair also

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 I said it came across as arrogant - which is not the same as saying he is arrogant. 
And I commented my comment may have seemed a little unfair as well. 

im also far from a hater - that was the comment I got annoyed about in truth. If you check, I proposed them for player of the month, no one else seemed to do that. 

anyway, move on - just call me grumpy from Yorkshire 

JonH comes home wrote:

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9vicman wrote:

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I get that each player needs to be authentic, but Lloyd Glasspool's low key reactions - even in the press conference - don't help in the wider promotion of their success and doubles in general.

In the press conference afterwards, Julian reflected that media and the public are almost getting used to British doubles success:

JULIAN CASH: Yeah, for sure. I think the fact that so many people do well almost takes away from what's being achieved.

You look here. It's been a British winner the last three years, so it almost looks normal. Yeah, I mean, I definitely think there should be more publicity, more press on it.

When Jonny Marray won Wimbledon in 2015 (and apologies Jonny, I forgot you when listing the SEVEN recent men's doubles Grand Slam champions) there was so much fanfare, and there was still excitement after last year's final due to the closeness of the match and Henri's exuberance.

But yesterday felt a little low key for such an historic achievement, even on these channels.

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I agree - sadly ive been out of the way most of the weekend so didnt have much time to comment much on this or tennis, or see any, but it did feel muted. Being frank, Julian has virtually no public profile - I wouldnt have recgognised him - and Lloyd came across as a little arrogant in not acting more excited. maybe unfair, but its how it seemed to me. 

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 Have Julian and Katie Stresnakova split up? All trace of him seems to have vanished from her Instagram page.

Hoppy wrote:

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JonH comes home wrote:

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Hoppy wrote:

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Possibly but there is so much negativity I sometimes cant resist. Why assume its arrogance that stops him reacting in the way youre used to and not just a different personality. Sorry if I was unfair, but I felt your comment was a little unfair also

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 I said it came across as arrogant - which is not the same as saying he is arrogant. 
And I commented my comment may have seemed a little unfair as well. 

im also far from a hater - that was the comment I got annoyed about in truth. If you check, I proposed them for player of the month, no one else seemed to do that. 

anyway, move on - just call me grumpy from Yorkshire 

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Sunday 13th of July 2025 09:07:06 PM

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 I just wanted to apologise, Hoppy, for being slightly irritable on this. I was in a bad mood after lots of driving and being stuck behind a big crash on the A1 for a couple of hours. My original post about Lloyd being arrogant and response above on reflection were more pointed and bitey than Id usually post, and I had a little swipe back at you that wasnt needed - sorry.  

9vicman wrote:

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I think you have your answer there.

By the way, I wasn't suggesting that Lloyd should be performative. I don't think Rybakina should be falsely demonstrative either but it doesn't make her easy to promote.

But my point was more that media etc are getting a little blasé at British men's doubles success, and I don't feel Julian and Lloyd are getting the props they deserve. Finally an all British pair as Grand Slam champions and an obvious Davis Cup and Olympic pair.

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 It is 3 years until the next Olympics.

9vicman wrote:

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Yup, aware of that, but to have two all British pairs competing regularly at the highest levels can only be a good thing. I'd like to think that that might encourage more all-GB pairings going forward.

Naive of course to expect any player to partner someone for the sake of representing their country once or twice a year, but there are several recent examples of countrymen/women enjoying success across the board, eg Mektic/Pavic, Krejcikova/Siniakova, Errani/Paolini.

Personally I would love all pairs to be national - that's not realistic and will never happen - but would make doubles easier to promote and support.

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The ATP, of course, have at least tried historically to promote consistency of pairings to promote the sport, the Race being the main thing but various initiatives over the years, but Id say less so now and theyve largely given up the ghost. And hardly promote doubles, either. 

Badminton and table tennis are sports where a) doubles is prestigious, certainly badminton - even mixed doubles is seen as a big deal relative to singles - and b) all pairs are national pairs - whether that is driven by the Olympics Im not sure? Badminton has plenty of money in it in Asia at least but the pairs dont seem to ever split across national federations; perhaps the structure of the sport feeds up through national systems as opposed to the pro bodies having the power as is largely the case in tennis?