British Tennis Forum - Celebrating 20 Years!

Coup Droit wrote:

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emmsie69 wrote:

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Coup Droit wrote:

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emmsie69 wrote:

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Stircrazy wrote:

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L64:  Nuno Borges (POR) WR 37 defeated Billy Harris WR 151 by 6-3 6-4 7-6(7)

Billy had his chances in that tie-break.    Interesting that, although the line-calling is now electronic, there is no longer a net cord device, so it's a judgment call by the umpire!

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 I think they need to revisit the reliance on electronic line calling and certainly the net cord judge needs reinstating..  There was 1 point in the tiebreak that literally everyone including Nunes thought the ball was in, hence my observation that there is no backup.  Even the people who designed hawkeye say it's not infallible so I do think there needs to be a backup.

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 No backup

Ever

The whole point (and it's a glorious success, IMO) is that it is neutral and non-negotiable 

So there may be some calls people disagree with - in the same way people disagreed with hawkeye - and people very much disagreed with linespeople

But no disagreements result in anything 

that's the whole glory 

Players play better, they behave better, it's purer, the antics and grandstanding has gone 

And, of course, the manaufacturers have to calibrate it properly, and windy conditions or whatever may cause a problem, but no problems are anywhere near as bad linespeople - there's no argument about favouritism, no argument about the old, blind one on the lefthand line, no intimidation tactics (seeing Jelena try it in Sonay's match was hysterical) 

So no backups, IMO - just like haweye - it's neutral, it's fair, it's probably right 99.9% of the time (and who's to say when it isn't?) 

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 They do at the moment because it's new but if there is a hint of it not being accurate then they will start complaining. It's literally no different to pre hawkeye.

Pre hawkeye it was pointless arguing with the line judge because they weren't going to change their call (although players still did).  The BBC would show endless different angles to either prove the line judge was correct or incorrect.  I find it odd that they aren't doing the same with hawkeye.

I'm not particularly bothered by electronic line calling (other than people losing their jobs, something I feel quite strongly about and not just in Tennis, I am that person that still uses the manned checkout at the Supermarket)

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 I use the manned checkouts too

Always (or nearly)

It's nice to say hello to someone

But I don't want players saying hello to line judges 

And I don't care about line judges losing their very parttime per diem allowance roles 

(I don't mind all the chimney sweeps losing their jobs either, or the farriers, or matchstick sellers....)

With elecronic aids, it's not a question of whether they are perfect

But whether they are better than the alternatives 

And the new automated linecalling is so much fairer and consistent and takes away all the aggro 

 

 

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 I agree with you. The challenge system became a bit silly when someone didn't challenge, or had run out of challenges, and then they showed that the call was wrong on the TV. So the tech showed it was wrong but they couldn't do anything with the (fair) rules they had in place. At that point it was only a matter of time until it went automated.

Spireman wrote:

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Enjoying Diallo v Fritz towards end of 4th set and likely into a 5th

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 Very good watch! Fritz throws himself about! 

JonH comes home wrote:

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So Dan on centre court and against Djokovic! What a day for him! I hope he makes himself proud.

Jack D shouldnt have too many problems getting through, Jack PJ is a toss up, I hope he gets a result out of today. Arthur is probably too far behind to get a win, sadly.

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 Arthur under the radar yesterday I watched some and he was at least as good as his opponent just fine margins and maybe the occasion. Great signs though and hope he can sneak a set at least  think I've made it very clear he's a fav of mine! Go Arthur!

Danny1312 wrote:

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Wow JPJ not playing terribly but his opponent is on fire! Watched Fearnley smash him last week this guy doesn't look the same person! Tennis ey!

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Anyone happen to know why Cobolli has such rowdy fans?  I'm growing rather tired of hearing the chants of "Forza Flavio"!