British Tennis Forum - Celebrating 20 Years!

If I had to choose one, Jubby would be my pick. Hamish nope, Ryan has a nightmare section, Oli T- second best chance; Oli B - sorry. But good win today

Great day down at Roehampton positioned myself on court 1 for the first 3 matches towards the side so I could catch court 3 & 4 and also see the scoreboard for court2. Excellent from Ryan and Paul, from what I caught of Giles he seemed like the closest to nearly do it. Hamish obviously got a good bit of luck. Thought Alistair played well I watched his first two sets but had to make a move.great to see so many British wins!

Coup Droit wrote:

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I bow absolutely to Pauldepstein's superior knowledge

Although he can't tell us why paul is so favoured by the general public's betting flows - the wonders of betting, or trying to understand the general public, or both 

The answer, though, I'm sure, is primarily the surface.

He is a clay player. He was playing last week on clay.

He's won a quali match twice on grass, but I think that's it. He never plays any other tournaments on grass - last year he played on clay the week before, played Wimbly qualis, and then went and played on clay the week after.

Paul on the other hand has a lof of grass under his belt.

And, although rankings matters, every year you see players at Wimbly qualis who just look rank awful on grass - and don't really care - they don't expect to win, they don't really care if they win, they've barely bought new grass tennis shoes - not worth the money. But they're getting £15.5k (and just possibly £26k if they get lucky) so worth turning out for.


Exactly like Indy, I bet a lot on tennis (as in a lot of bets) but in small (sometimes very small ) amounts

And come out each year in profit by about 5-10%

Which sounds great and would suggest ramping it up - but I know that if I ramped it up (a) I wouldn't enjoy it so much and (b) I probably wouldn't make the same profit, because you don't act the same when the amounts are bigger, it's common sense psychology

Now, I'm not betting on Paul's match but if I did so I probably would bet on Tirante - I think Paul will more likely win but the odds do seem a bit tight on him.

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 23rd of June 2025 07:23:57 AM

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          Re Hamish's match: When I worked in this industry, the rules were that bets on match-winners were voided in the case of uncompleted matches.  In other words, if you bet on Hamish or his opponent, your stake would just be returned.  I don't know whether these rules have changed or not.  There were cases where we would have to break the rules in favour of the customers to retain customer goodwill since customers who bet on the non-injured player generally didn't know about this voiding rule and expected to get paid.

JonH comes home wrote:

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Tomorrow we have

Ryan court 1
Hamish, Paul and Oliver B court 2
Oliver T court 4

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 I noticed that in the entire mens qualifying draw, none of the Brits can meet each other.

 Is this just a coincidence or is the draw deliberately arranged that way?

indiana wrote:

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pauldepstein wrote:

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JonH comes home wrote:

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Tomorrow we have

Ryan court 1
Hamish, Paul and Oliver B court 2
Oliver T court 4

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 I noticed that in the entire mens qualifying draw, none of the Brits can meet each other.

 Is this just a coincidence or is the draw deliberately arranged that way?

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 Yes, someone else noted that earlier. Coincidence because otherwise the term would be a "fix" which isn't allowed in senior pro tennis, particularly Slams, and most particuiarly Wimbledon gosh 

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They do however do it at the Olympics and in juniors. 

In the women's draw there were three of our girls in the same section. I say we're because all three lost today - so another coincidence 

indiana wrote:

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pauldepstein wrote:

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JonH comes home wrote:

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Tomorrow we have

Ryan court 1
Hamish, Paul and Oliver B court 2
Oliver T court 4

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 I noticed that in the entire mens qualifying draw, none of the Brits can meet each other.

 Is this just a coincidence or is the draw deliberately arranged that way?

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 Yes, someone else noted that earlier. Coincidence because otherwise the term would be a "fix" which isn't allowed in senior pro tennis, particularly Slams, and most particuiarly Wimbledon gosh 

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          Now that same-sex relationships are an acknowledged possibility, there is a case for "fixing" if needed to prevent spouses meeting each other.  Impossible currently in pro men's tennis I think but it seems a bit ridiculous for a woman to compete for prize money against her wife, given that they presumably share the money anyway.