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Canda · Lower Club Player

Week 24 - WTA125 Lexus Ilkley Open Great Britain - Grass

Canda · Lower Club Player

Unsurprisingly Marni breaks and leads 4-1

seagull · Hall of fame

Marni wins 6-2 , 6-1

Canda · Lower Club Player

Marni wins 6-2, 6-1

Var · Futures qualifying

Not like Mimi. Maybe a bit under the weather? She usually fights hard. Marni pretty beatable opponent so I would say something not right.

DF · Tennis legend

But the thing is that something has not been 'right' for quite a while now. She has not been competing in many tournaments.

Var · Futures qualifying

DF wrote:
But the thing is that something has not been 'right' for quite a while now. She has not been competing in many tournaments.

As I understand she was injured went back and played a few tournaments in Japan and did well for ITF50# then seemed to get injured again. However following her success at Birmingham last week there are some horrible horrible comments on her Instagram feed. I cannot believe how someone would be so nasty to a 17 year old. I hope she is getting plenty of support to manage her social media. We know how it can affect players. Jodie, Katie and Emma have all talked about it.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Harriet was well in control of that first set at 3-1 up

And then just seemed to miss a few balls, go to sleep, whatever, and suddenly it's 3-6

indiana · Tennis legend

Var wrote:
DF wrote:
But the thing is that something has not been 'right' for quite a while now. She has not been competing in many tournaments.
As I understand she was injured went back and played a few tournaments in Japan and did well for ITF50# then seemed to get injured again. However following her success at Birmingham last week there are some horrible horrible comments on her Instagram feed. I cannot believe how someone would be so nasty to a 17 year old. I hope she is getting plenty of support to manage her social media. We know how it can affect players. Jodie, Katie and Emma have all talked about it.

Trouble is I can believe it. There was a time I wouldn't have but social media has exposed us to the sad fact that this society has a lot of sheer scum in it.

While I accept each individual is different and some may be able to barely let it effect them, I sadly can't help feeling that many of the players, particularly younger ones, would be better virtually if not wholly off social media.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Var wrote:
DF wrote:
But the thing is that something has not been 'right' for quite a while now. She has not been competing in many tournaments.
As I understand she was injured went back and played a few tournaments in Japan and did well for ITF50# then seemed to get injured again. However following her success at Birmingham last week there are some horrible horrible comments on her Instagram feed. I cannot believe how someone would be so nasty to a 17 year old. I hope she is getting plenty of support to manage her social media. We know how it can affect players. Jodie, Katie and Emma have all talked about it.
Trouble is I can believe it. There was a time I wouldn't have but social media has exposed us to the sad fact that this society has a lot of sheer scum in it.
While I accept each individual is different and some may be able to barely let it effect them, I sadly can't help feeling that many of the players, particularly younger ones, would be better virtually if not wholly off social media.

The sensible option, to me, is to have a private-only social media presence for the players themselves, with friends and family

And then to have a family member run their 'public' profile - for those who want to build up a fanbase, commercialise their 'brand' etc

And let big sister, cousin, mum, whoever monitor that public account with the player having basically nothing to do with it

Var · Futures qualifying

Coup Droit wrote:
indiana wrote:
Var wrote:
DF wrote:
But the thing is that something has not been 'right' for quite a while now. She has not been competing in many tournaments.
As I understand she was injured went back and played a few tournaments in Japan and did well for ITF50# then seemed to get injured again. However following her success at Birmingham last week there are some horrible horrible comments on her Instagram feed. I cannot believe how someone would be so nasty to a 17 year old. I hope she is getting plenty of support to manage her social media. We know how it can affect players. Jodie, Katie and Emma have all talked about it.
Trouble is I can believe it. There was a time I wouldn't have but social media has exposed us to the sad fact that this society has a lot of sheer scum in it.
While I accept each individual is different and some may be able to barely let it effect them, I sadly can't help feeling that many of the players, particularly younger ones, would be better virtually if not wholly off social media.
The sensible option, to me, is to have a private-only social media presence for the players themselves, with friends and family
And then to have a family member run their 'public' profile - for those who want to build up a fanbase, commercialise their 'brand' etc
And let big sister, cousin, mum, whoever monitor that public account with the player having basically nothing to do with it

I think it needs professionals to manage the public persona TBH. However everyone who is on Instagram or Facebook, TikTok etc and on this forum can help. Go on, find the trolls, report them. I have just been on Mimis feed and reported the racist and misogynist comments. It only takes a few seconds. If everyone did this then Meta might act.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Var wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
indiana wrote:
Var wrote:
DF wrote:
But the thing is that something has not been 'right' for quite a while now. She has not been competing in many tournaments.
As I understand she was injured went back and played a few tournaments in Japan and did well for ITF50# then seemed to get injured again. However following her success at Birmingham last week there are some horrible horrible comments on her Instagram feed. I cannot believe how someone would be so nasty to a 17 year old. I hope she is getting plenty of support to manage her social media. We know how it can affect players. Jodie, Katie and Emma have all talked about it.
Trouble is I can believe it. There was a time I wouldn't have but social media has exposed us to the sad fact that this society has a lot of sheer scum in it.
While I accept each individual is different and some may be able to barely let it effect them, I sadly can't help feeling that many of the players, particularly younger ones, would be better virtually if not wholly off social media.
The sensible option, to me, is to have a private-only social media presence for the players themselves, with friends and family
And then to have a family member run their 'public' profile - for those who want to build up a fanbase, commercialise their 'brand' etc
And let big sister, cousin, mum, whoever monitor that public account with the player having basically nothing to do with it
I think it needs professionals to manage the public persona TBH. However everyone who is on Instagram or Facebook, TikTok etc and on this forum can help. Go on, find the trolls, report them. I have just been on Mimis feed and reported the racist and misogynist comments. It only takes a few seconds. If everyone did this then Meta might act.

Youngsters generally can't afford professionals

Quite a few players use a family member very successfully - it depends what the aim is:

if it's to protect the player as priority, a family member will be perfectly equipped;

if it's to monetise their presence, that's a more commercial professional sort of thing, but that has to take second place, until their presence is one that really requires commercial management, by which time they'll be able to pay for help if they need it

PaulM · Tennis legend

Harriet loses 6-3 7-5. Not good, but also pretty much expected.

christ · Futures level

There's an old saying about using a long spoon when supping with the devil. Pre-dates social media, but is definitely applicable.

the addict · Tennis legend

Doubles results

L16:- Harriet Dart (GBR) / Maia Lumsden (GBR) CR141 (69+72) [1] def Holly Hutchinson (GBR) / Ella McDonald (GBR) CR497 (258+239) 7-6(3) 6-0
L16:- Emily Appleton (GBR) / Rebecca Marino (CAN) CR347 (86+261) def Carmen Corley (USA) / Ivana Corley (USA) CR313 (106+207) 6-2 7-6(5)

L16:- Alicia Barnett (GBR) / Elixane Lechemia (FRA) CR302 (154+148) [4] lost to Kayla Cross (CAN) / Alana Smith (USA) CR315 (163+152) 3-6 (4)6-7
L16:- Vitalia Diatchenko (***) / Eden Silva (GBR) CR445 (322+123) def Ines Ibbou (ALG) / Naima Karamoko (SUI) CR370 (166+204) 7-6(6) 2-6 10-7

L16:- Diane Parry (FRA) / Yuliia Starodubtseva (UKR) CR819 (100+719) def Amarni Banks (GBR) / Ranah Stoiber (GBR) CR1602 (1221+381) 6-3 6-1
L16:- Isabelle Haverlag (NED) / Simona Waltert (SUI) CR293 (97+196) [3] def O Gadecki (AUS) / Leolia Jeanjean (FRA) CR499 (109+390) 3-6 6-0 10-6

L16:- Elsa Jacquemot (FRA) / Varvara Lepchenko (USA) CR906 (238+668) def Amelia Rajecki (GBR) / Mingge Xu (GBR) CR548 (252+292) 6-4 6-1
L16:- Naiktha Bains (GBR) / Tara Moore (GBR) CR412 (215+197) def Madeleine Brooks (GBR) / P Hule (AUS) CR240 (119+121) [2] (2)6-7 6-3 10-4

*****

QF:- Harriet Dart (GBR) / Maia Lumsden (GBR) CR141 (69+72) [1] v Emily Appleton (GBR) / Rebecca Marino (CAN) CR347 (86+261)
QF:- Kayla Cross (CAN) / Alana Smith (USA) CR315 (163+152) v Vitalia Diatchenko (***) / Eden Silva (GBR) CR445 (322+123)

QF:- Diane Parry (FRA) / Yuliia Starodubtseva (UKR) CR819 (100+719) v Isabelle Haverlag (NED) / Simona Waltert (SUI) CR293 (97+196) [3]
QF:- Naiktha Bains (GBR) / Tara Moore (GBR) CR412 (215+197) v Elsa Jacquemot (FRA) / Varvara Lepchenko (USA) CR906 (238+668)