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Post Info TOPIC: Weeks 19 & 20 - ATP Masters 1000 (Internazionali BNL d'Italia) - Rome, Italy (clay)


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RE: Weeks 19 & 20 - ATP Masters 1000 (Internazionali BNL d'Italia) - Rome, Italy (clay)


emmsie69 wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:

Yes, I agree, you'd hope the police have better things to do - but B00thy has a point

If something IS a criminal offence, why should we allow it just because it's sport?

If Jack damages the court, that's OK? But if he goes and damages the clubhouse afterwards, that's not OK? Because one is in the heat of the moment and one isn't? Well, that's not a defence in most legal areas

English law has had a huge amount of hoo-hah about what level of consent is assumed for harm suffered in contact sports - a normal rugby tackle that breaks a player's arm is fine, a tackle 'off the ball' that does the same is just a violation of sporting rules ???? but if it's at the other end of the pitch it's GBH? Or does it have to be actually after the match ?

Not trying to be difficult - and, of course, in practice, deliberately making a few big divots is not a biggie - and it certainy doesn't offend or upset me - and some feistiness in sport is a good. But it does beg a few questions.....

And people who deliberately break their own rackets should be forced to donate to donate to some environmental charity - or a fund to provide free rackets to kids in deprived areas


 My Son used to break his rackets, in the end I told him the next time he broke his racket, he'd be getting a £5 one from Woolies, maybe the punishment should be using a wooden racket at the next tournamentbiggrin

ETA The threat worked on him.



-- Edited by emmsie69 on Monday 12th of May 2025 05:43:09 AM


 Exactly

My son never used to break rackets but he did go in for theatricals - completely over the top - ridiculous

So, yes, he got taken off the court in one important match, that he was winning 

And, yes, he never did it again

We'll see if the addict's fine happens. And it's too generic.

As said, I think it should be changed and the remedy should be directed at the harm   

 



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Aside from some form of punishment  and I didn't see any of the match, why did he do it when he won the match.  All understandable, but not excusable if he lost!



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I didn't see the incident, but smashing a racket is preferable to blasting a ball into the face of the umpire  or ball girl à la FAA or Tim.  When your playing in the lower levels of the game, hitting a ball as hard as you can is not dangerous as there is no-one around, not even an umpire. I understand the need to vent frustration, it is something I sometimes need to do even though I'm not a pro sports person. 

I agree with JonH when he states that it is a behaviour preferable to whinging at and blaming your coach. If I was a coach and a player was giving me disrespect for his own ineptitude, I could suffer a sense of humour failure.  

  It will damage a clay court though, esp a Har Tru one. Provided that it is not within the area of play where it could cause a bad bounce I don't think it is too serious though, it would be just another item on the groundsman's list of things to do. 

JD has a day offf today, hopefully he can chill and do some sight seeing. 

 



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It was on the actual court area and did affect play. I think that he expected to sail through against the lower ranked
player and was frustrated to come up against opposition. Luckily the match finished quickly after this.

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jack has lost the first set in style

1-6

to the little French lefty Moutet ----

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Coup Droit wrote:

jack has lost the first set in style

1-6

to the little French lefty Moutet ----


 Gosh! Maybe he needs a break after he cracked yesterday (no pun intended)



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I think Jack needs to hit the beach for a few days before Roland Garros

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Jack gets the second set, 6-4. Worth noting, Carlitos is a set all versus Khachanov- winner of those two matches play next

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Stircrazy wrote:

L16:  (5) Jack Draper WR 5 vs Corentin Moutet (FRA) WR 83 (CH = 51 in November 2022)

Moutet beat Holger Rune (9) in three (7-5 5-7 7-6(4))...


L16:  (5) Jack Draper WR 5 defeated Corentin Moutet (FRA) WR 83 by 1-6 6-4 6-3

Alcaraz & Khachanov still locked in battle in the final set of their encounter:  currently *5-5. 



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Phew!

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Well done Jack. Any racquets broken today?!

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One more win , realising that wont be easy, and Jack goes 4th. 2nd in the race as of now.

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Stircrazy wrote:

L16:  (5) Jack Draper WR 5 defeated Corentin Moutet (FRA) WR 83 by 1-6 6-4 6-3

Alcaraz & Khachanov still locked in battle in the final set of their encounter:  currently *5-5. 


QF:  (5) Jack Draper WR 5 vs (3) Carlos Alcaraz (ESP) WR 3 (CH = 1 in September 2022)



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Good write up of jacks win today

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-14706997/Jack-Draper-Corentin-Moutet-Italian-Open.html

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Jack going toe to toe with Alcaraz. So far. Can he keep in this first set?

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