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JonH comes home · Tennis legend

RE: Weeks 17 & 18 - ATP Masters 1000 - Madrid, Spain (clay)

DF · Tennis legend

Jack is not happy and has lost the first set 5-7

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Ok, set all. Cracking end to the set for Jack

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Ah well, it was nice while it lasted:

Final: (14) Casper Ruud (NOR) WR 15 defeated (5) Jack Draper WR 6 by 7-5 3-6 6-4 cry

He'll surely have learnt a lot over the last 10 days or so.

Jajon · Club Coach

Well at least it was Ruud he lost to- always a nice guy! Cracking week though

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Ah well, it was nice while it lasted:
Final: (14) Casper Ruud (NOR) WR 15 defeated (5) Jack Draper WR 6 by 7-5 3-6 6-4
He'll surely have learnt a lot over the last 10 days or so.

Interesting comment by Jonathan Jurejko at *2-4 in the final set in the Beeb's live text commentary on the match:

Uh oh. A tired double fault by Draper isn't how he wants to start this vital game. But he recovers with a wonderful bit of play, lunging across court for a backhand which he whips back the other way.

Quality. Draper's mood takes a turn again when he is docked a first serve for another time violation.

He's so exasperated at Mohamed Lahyani. But Draper recovers to level at 30-30...

What was Lahyani up to? Can anyone explain?

Jan · Hall of fame

Ah, not to be. I saw some of the match, but not the last set. But a great week for Jack, and all great clay experience!
Onwards Jack!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
Ah well, it was nice while it lasted:
Final: (14) Casper Ruud (NOR) WR 15 defeated (5) Jack Draper WR 6 by 7-5 3-6 6-4
He'll surely have learnt a lot over the last 10 days or so.
Interesting comment by Jonathan Jurejko at *2-4 in the final set in the Beeb's live text commentary on the match:
Uh oh. A tired double fault by Draper isn't how he wants to start this vital game. But he recovers with a wonderful bit of play, lunging across court for a backhand which he whips back the other way.
Quality. Draper's mood takes a turn again when he is docked a first serve for another time violation.
He's so exasperated at Mohamed Lahyani. But Draper recovers to level at 30-30...
What was Lahyani up to? Can anyone explain?

He gave Jack a time violation for taking too long on his serve, more than once. Hence Jack was upset about it.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Very nice final :)

Jack had a little wobble when he served for the first set

Ruud had a similar wobble at the end of the second

The rest of the two sets showed some super tennis

And Casper was just a little bit stronger physically in the third

He's 4 years older, Jack hasn't got there quite yet, he flagged just a touch, his shots weren't quite so deep and powerful

There wasn't much in it, Jack showed some excellent tennis but he got beaten by the physically stronger guy, which is just a question of age, you just look at the graphs for speed/power/endurance ratios

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Brilliant week for Jack and so close. Pleased for Ruud. Both will be ones to avoid in Paris.

Rome will be tough - hard to get back up for the next masters after doing so well in the one straight before. And Rome is slower than Madrid, usually, and also usually quite hot.

B00thy · Strong Club Player

I watched most of the match. There wasn't much between them throughout the whole of the match. Actually I thought Jack looked stronger in the first set but Casper broke back and broke again. Then Jack won the second when Casper generally looked more likely. The time violation that I saw was after a particularly sapping, long rally and Jack looked absolutely knackered and was just grabbing a a little more time. I thought it was a little harsh and kind of against the hard fought but sportsmanlike approach from both players, who were applauding each other's fine play.

In the end I think Casper shaded it so fair enough, Jack will improve from this hopefully. Time and again he plays the wrong shot, towards his opponent, and plays with too much margin (because he can usually rely on his power). Ultimately this was the difference, and Casper was on many occasions able to run round Jack's forehand and play a cross-court forehand winner/piercing shot because Jack's forehand was too central, and kicked-up in the clay.

A great week and he has learned so much about clay play

-- Edited by B00thy on Sunday 4th of May 2025 10:43:37 PM

Var · Satellite level

Now I need to own up here, I didnt think Jack would be the level he is for a year or two due to fitness issues. I definitely got that one wrong watching him play on the unforgiving clay. Supreme effort. On the green stuff though, just how far can Jack go in the grass season? Can you imagine the furore if he got to the latter stages of Wimbledon? Would be super. Keep healthy young man. heres to a glorious British summer.

-- Edited by Var on Monday 5th of May 2025 07:06:42 AM