Week 11 - ATP Challenger 175 - Copa Cap Ciudad Destino - Cap Cana, Dominican Republic (hard)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Week 11 - ATP Challenger 175 - Copa Cap Ciudad Destino - Cap Cana, Dominican Republic (hard)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
L32: (ALT) Constant Lestienne (FRA) WR 176 (CH = 48 in February 2023) vs (8) Cameron Norrie WR 77 (CH = 8 in September 2022)
L32: (ALT) Coleman Wong (HKG) WR 191 (CH = 128 last September) vs (ALT) Billy Harris WR 107 (CH = 101 last September)

That's a lot of ALTs

indiana · Tennis legend

L16: Billy Harris / Joshua Paris CR 992 (871+121) vs Robert Cash (USA) / JJ Tracy (USA) CR 166 (92+74)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L32: (ALT) Coleman Wong (HKG) WR 191 (CH = 128 last September) defeated (ALT) Billy Harris WR 107 by 6-3 6-7(4) 6-4 bleh

Priesty · Challenger level

Billy Bogdanovic....

indiana · Tennis legend

Priesty wrote:
Billy Bogdanovic....

Are you Vandenburg in disguise?

wales1994 · County player

It feels a bit like he's overplaying right now to 'get there'. He'll be in Miami quallies come the weekend - no?

seagull · Hall of fame

Priesty wrote:
Billy Bogdanovic....

What a lame comparison

Madadman · Grand Slam Champion

wales1994 wrote:
It feels a bit like he's overplaying right now to 'get there'. He'll be in Miami quallies come the weekend - no?

Should be playing but dont think the ATP qualifiers start till Monday.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

I think the Boggo comparison is unfair - Boggo was suggested to not have fulfilled his potential through not trying hard enough. Billy can never be accused a) of not trying hard enough b) not fulfilling his potential - he has exceeded his potential and works harder than anyone.

I also think it was unfair of the LTA to suggest that re Boggo, but dont know enough about him.

But definitely, definitely to say that about Billy is so far from the reality

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L16: Robert Cash & JJ Tracy (USA/USA) CR 166 (92+74) defeated Billy Harris & Joshua Paris CR 992 (871+121) by 6-4 4-6 [10-5] hmm

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L32: (ALT) Constant Lestienne (FRA) WR 176 defeated (8) Cameron Norrie WR 77 by 4 & 5 bleh

seagull · Hall of fame

Wow thats an awful result - should have been looking to win this event.

Babfive · Satellite level

Yes, it feels like Cameron is making one step forward and one step back at the moment.

9vicman · Satellite level

JonH comes home wrote:
I think the Boggo comparison is unfair - Boggo was suggested to not have fulfilled his potential through not trying hard enough. Billy can never be accused a) of not trying hard enough b) not fulfilling his potential - he has exceeded his potential and works harder than anyone.

I also think it was unfair of the LTA to suggest that re Boggo, but dont know enough about him.

But definitely, definitely to say that about Billy is so far from the reality

Boggo and Billy very different cases in my opinion. Billy has improved his year-end ranking every year since 2020. Aged 28, he was still ranked 331, so to get to the fringes of the Top 100 at the age of 30 is a tremendous achievement.

But as mentioned previously, away from grass, he's struggled against the leading players, even those in the 100-200 bracket, so I think a Top 100 ranking wouldn't be a reflection of his overall level.

Top 100 is a significant milestone and yet also an arbitrary figure if used to judge a player's success. Billy's had plenty of chances in recent weeks, where he has been seeded highly, so can't feel hard done by. He had opportunities on grass that other players wouldn't have.

That said, if this proves to be his pinnacle in terms of ranking, a great effort. And at 30 he could have several years ahead of him.