Weeks 10&11 - WTA1000 - Indian Wells, USA Hard

Peter too · Tennis legend

Weeks 10&11 - WTA1000 - Indian Wells, USA Hard

the addict · Tennis legend

That's a good win for Sonay, and she now has a day off before the FQR.

The main draw will be out today (before qualifying is finished) with the doubles draw released on Wednesday

Lambda · ATP qualifying

the addict wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
the addict wrote:
Only caught a little bit of the match - the court looked very slow to me - and Jodie's serve nowhere to be found.
IW is always very slow
Yes, I was aware - I just thought it seemed even slower than usual ! But then after Doha, Dubai and Austin I suppose it was inevitable to think this.

They've changed the court surface to Laykold this year, supposedly to give a consistent surface with Miami and the US Open. I've seen a few photos from players showing the courts as being very sandy.

Priesty · Challenger level

Blue_Belle wrote:
Priesty wrote:
Sonay's opponent looks a potential banana skin - already WR 114 at the age of 20 with a recent win over Cirstea to her credit....
Sonay won 6-2 6-2

Yes, I clearly need to have more faith in Sonay wink

Would be great to see her build up a bank of wins at this level to keep herself in the top 100 so she isnt too dependent on her Wimbledon and Monastir points.

PaulM · Tennis legend

The change should have speeded the courts up a little but from the bits of tennis I saw it's not been by very much! Looks like they are still putting plenty of sand in the top layer of paint which combined with the desert conditions is keeping it all a bit sluggish.

-- Edited by PaulM on Monday 3rd of March 2025 09:07:42 AM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

PaulM wrote:
The change should have speeded the courts up a little but from the bits of tennis I saw it's not been by very much! Looks like they are still putting plenty of sand in the top layer of paint which combined with the desert conditions is keeping it all a bit sluggish.

-- Edited by PaulM on Monday 3rd of March 2025 09:07:42 AM

Post the event, TEnnis Abstraft will run a surface speed rating update, which is using mens data as the proxy bit clearly it is the same court for all.

This is the current list, showing IW as much slower than average and Miami daster. 1 being average. Dubai is a lot faster than Doha also

https://tennisabstract.com/reports/atp_surface_speed.html

the measure uses aces served versus expected aces given the players in the field and their quality on serve and return. As opposed to using a formal measuring device.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Indian Wells and Doha are two of the slowest hardcourt tournies on the tour. The indoor, grass and summer hard court events tend to be the quicker ones.

Its not a perfect measure but its pretty good and compares well with most peoples instinct.

RJH1962 · Intermediate Club Player

indiana wrote:
PaulM wrote:
Terrible serving day, and everything else was about as bad.

Just one of those days at the office sadly.
Her serve did indeed appear a bit problematic from the stats I see.
34% first serves in and 9 points in total won on first serve!!
You're totally on the backfoot with serve stats like that.
And slow courts don't stop your first serve landing in that box.

I think Jodie needs to drop a level to get game time. Pretty much as she did at the end of last season.

Mervatron2 · Challenger qualifying

Great to see Sonay get the comfortable win. Shame about Jodie. Still a bit up and down atm.

emmsie69 · Top national player

RJH1962 wrote:
indiana wrote:
PaulM wrote:
Terrible serving day, and everything else was about as bad.

Just one of those days at the office sadly.
Her serve did indeed appear a bit problematic from the stats I see.
34% first serves in and 9 points in total won on first serve!!
You're totally on the backfoot with serve stats like that.
And slow courts don't stop your first serve landing in that box.
I think Jodie needs to drop a level to get game time. Pretty much as she did at the end of last season.

I think those stats might be more a reflection of the shoulder? injury she sustained last week.

Sheddie · administrator

Yeah, it's good to see Jodie back competing at this level again, but on courts as slow as IW, she'd have to be playing close to her best to have a shot. Hopefully she can rest up and come back ready to attack Miami qualies

the addict · Tennis legend

Main draw ceremony is scheduled between 3pm and 4pm local (according to posts on X) - so after 11pm here.

Peter too · Tennis legend

R1: Emma Raducanu (GBR) WR55 v Moyuka Uchijima (JPN) WR 52
They met in Seoul in 2022 with Emma winning 2 & 4

The winner plays Gauff in R2.

R1: Katie Boulter (GBR) WR38 [25] v Bye

Katie plays the winner of Begu and Li in R2 both with rankings outside the top 60

-- Edited by Peter too on Tuesday 4th of March 2025 12:57:06 AM

Sheddie · administrator

That's a bit of a smelly draw for Emma. I'd fancy her to get past Uchijima but Gauff in round 2 is a downer.

the addict · Tennis legend

Sheddie wrote:
That's a bit of a smelly draw for Emma. I'd fancy her to get past Uchijima but Gauff in round 2 is a downer.

Yes, not a good spot in the draw, and unlucky not to get one of the other seeds.

Some good spots for qualifiers though, so hope Sonay can win today and get a good draw