Week 10 - ATP Challenger 50 - Hersonissos, Crete (hard)

Madadman · Grand Slam Champion

RE: Week 10 - ATP Challenger 50 - Hersonissos, Crete (hard)

indiana · Tennis legend

Ryan up to live ranked 372, good to see him rising again. Back in the top 400 for the first time in 6 months.

Stuart up to live ranked 497 on 81 points. Top 500 may well not hold without a SF win, with this being a 2 week rankings period and it rather crowded around WR 500.

Henry is up to live ranked 387 as against his CH 389. Again that may not hold as a CH and anyway he's surely on a journey to a very much higher place.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

SF: (ALT) Juan Carlos Prado (BOL) & Mark Whitehouse CR 2030 (1679+351) defeated Arthur Géa & Ergi Kirkin (FRA/TUR) CR 1055 (537+518) by 7-6(1) 6-2 biggrin

*****

Final: Dennis Novak & Zsombor Piros (AUT/HUN) UNR vs (ALT) Juan Carlos Prado (BOL) & Mark Whitehouse CR 2030 (1679+351)

A chance?

B00thy · Lower Club Player

B00thy wrote:
What a great set of results! I'd settle for 1/3 going through to the next round but hoping for more

Yaay! 2 from 3. Well done guys!

seagull · Hall of fame

Henry has pulled out of next weeks event here.

9vicman · Satellite level

Stircrazy wrote:
SF: (ALT) Juan Carlos Prado (BOL) & Mark Whitehouse CR 2030 (1679+351) defeated Arthur Géa & Ergi Kirkin (FRA/TUR) CR 1055 (537+518) by 7-6(1) 6-2
*****
Final: Dennis Novak & Zsombor Piros (AUT/HUN) UNR vs (ALT) Juan Carlos Prado (BOL) & Mark Whitehouse CR 2030 (1679+351)
A chance?

Interestingly Mark is making his debut for Great Britain in Antalya for next week, in the Men's Over 30 category (a relatively new age group) in the ITF World Masters Championships. Must be the first time someone has played an ATP Challenger Final and Masters event in back-to-back weeks. Alex Ward also in the Men's Over 30 team.

Full team listings here: ITF Masters Tour World Championships | ITF

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

9vicman wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
SF: (ALT) Juan Carlos Prado (BOL) & Mark Whitehouse CR 2030 (1679+351) defeated Arthur Géa & Ergi Kirkin (FRA/TUR) CR 1055 (537+518) by 7-6(1) 6-2
*****
Final: Dennis Novak & Zsombor Piros (AUT/HUN) UNR vs (ALT) Juan Carlos Prado (BOL) & Mark Whitehouse CR 2030 (1679+351)
A chance?
Interestingly Mark is making his debut for Great Britain in Antalya for next week, in the Men's Over 30 category (a relatively new age group) in the ITF World Masters Championships. Must be the first time someone has played an ATP Challenger Final and Masters event in back-to-back weeks. Alex Ward also in the Men's Over 30 team.
Full team listings here: ITF Masters Tour World Championships | ITF

Thanks for that interesting snippet, 9vm. I'd pretty much given up hope that anyone would give Mark a smidgen of credit for what he's achieved this week in what must be a scratch pairing at Challenger level.

Madadman · Grand Slam Champion

Interesting having a quick click through all the players. Mark is the only one with a current ATP ranking and Alex has the highest ATP career high of all players. I think Mark might be 2nd. I notice Alex hasnt lost a game in this Over 30s level from what I can tell.

indiana · Tennis legend

All the best to Mark in his Masters over 30 thingy. But i was thinking that 30 did seem to me to be too low an age for a Masters category given many players are still around their peak in their early 30s. Over 35 seemed more appropriate as the lowest age category.

Though maybe introduced as something to freshly look towards for some players that have retired / semi-retired at earlier ages?

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 7th of March 2025 07:47:17 PM

9vicman · Satellite level

indiana wrote:
All the best to Mark in his Masters over 30 thingy. But i was thinking that 30 did seem to me to be too low an age for a Masters category given many players are still around their peak in their early 30s. Over 35 seemed more appropriate as the lowest age category.
Though maybe introduced as something to freshly look towards for some players that have retired / semi-retired at earlier ages?

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 7th of March 2025 07:47:17 PM

I think that's just it. Plenty of decent players don't play professional tennis events after going to college, or retire in their early 20s, and there are other national level players who don't have opportunity outside club tennis. And Masters tennis allows them to play at a higher level for the rest of their lives if their desire and health allows them to do so.

-- Edited by 9vicman on Friday 7th of March 2025 08:40:34 PM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Ive not checked this thread all week, or seen any scores, so very excitedly surprised to see Stuart and Ryan in a semi, and theyve beaten some strong players.

Excellent - theyve not played before so should be fun

indiana · Tennis legend

Stuart is 4-1* up on Ryan in the first set of their SF

indiana · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Ive not checked this thread all week, or seen any scores, so very excitedly surprised to see Stuart and Ryan in a semi, and theyve beaten some strong players.

Excellent - theyve not played before so should be fun

They are 1-1 in pro tour H2Hs.

Stuart won a Heraklion M15 match in 3 sets in November 2020 and Ryan won a Loughborough M25 match in 3 sets in January 2022.

If checking H2Hs on the ATP site, I think it just counts ATP tour or at least not below Challenger level.

indiana · Tennis legend

The first set to Stuart by 6-2

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Ive not checked this thread all week, or seen any scores, so very excitedly surprised to see Stuart and Ryan in a semi, and theyve beaten some strong players.

Excellent - theyve not played before so should be fun
They are 1-1 in pro tour H2Hs.
Stuart won a Heraklion M15 match in 3 sets in November 2020 and Ryan won a Loughborough M25 match in 3 sets in January 2022.
If checking H2Hs on the ATP site, I think it just counts ATP tour or at least not below Challenger level.

That wouod be it - rubbish isnt it. Why dont they cover all bases?