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AnnaM · Lower Club Player

Yes, a bit windy with bright sun going in and out of the clouds. The grass courts have had a lot of use, so some bad bounces. It is a nice day to watch though.

Anna did a good warmup, so her shoulder is holding up for now. As expected, Anna just lost set 1, 6-1.

Anna is 2-1 up in set 2, so I expect Mia will push harder to stop any come back from Anna.

As expected, Anna threatened another game and a clearly in by 12 inches down the line winner gets called out. Anna said Mia contracticted herself and said it touched the line, then said it was out anyway. Anna said there were a few on the line shots called out also. So it finishes 6-1.6-2.

At least it was not like a match Anna had on Sunday where balls four feet in were being called out many times over.

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Coup Droit · Tennis legend

AnnaM wrote:
Yes, a bit windy with bright sun going in and out of the clouds. The grass courts have had a lot of use, so some bad bounces. It is a nice day to watch though.

Anna did a good warmup, so her shoulder is holding up for now. As expected, Anna just lost set 1, 6-1.

Anna is 2-1 up in set 2, so I expect Mia will push harder to stop any come back from Anna.
As expected, Anna threatened another game and a clearly in by 12 inches down the line winner gets called out. Anna said Mia contracticted herself and said it touched the line, then said it was out anyway. Anna said there were a few on the line shots called out also. So it finishes 6-1.6-2.
At least it was not like a match Anna had on Sunday where balls four feet in were being called out many times over.

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-- Edited by AnnaM on Wednesday 30th of July 2025 02:17:21 PM

Just call the tournament referee - refuse to play until the tournament referee comes - and get him/her to oversee - I've seen it done in various events in the UK - and have insisted on it for someone myself - stick firm - you have the right

AnnaM · Lower Club Player

Coup Droit wrote:
AnnaM wrote:
Yes, a bit windy with bright sun going in and out of the clouds. The grass courts have had a lot of use, so some bad bounces. It is a nice day to watch though.

Anna did a good warmup, so her shoulder is holding up for now. As expected, Anna just lost set 1, 6-1.

Anna is 2-1 up in set 2, so I expect Mia will push harder to stop any come back from Anna.
As expected, Anna threatened another game and a clearly in by 12 inches down the line winner gets called out. Anna said Mia contracticted herself and said it touched the line, then said it was out anyway. Anna said there were a few on the line shots called out also. So it finishes 6-1.6-2.
At least it was not like a match Anna had on Sunday where balls four feet in were being called out many times over.

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-- Edited by AnnaM on Wednesday 30th of July 2025 02:17:21 PM
Just call the tournament referee - refuse to play until the tournament referee comes - and get him/her to oversee - I've seen it done in various events in the UK - and have insisted on it for someone myself - stick firm - you have the right

It was not worth it for this match, as it was just an attempt to stop Anna getting a scoreline that was a bit embarrassing. Anna even said to her that she was good enough not to need to do that. An official stood nearby after hearing the line dispute. But it was too late and prevented Anna from going 0-40 up in that game. Also, it is hard to call grass lines from the other side.

Anna clearly did enough to easily win the match in straight sets on Sunday, but was so ill and dizzy during one point, she fainted for a few seconds on court. She actually collapsed during a point. Being on a difficult-to-see indoor hard court five did not help. The bad calls, which I could even see from my bad viewpoint, dragged the match on too long. When Anna demanded a ref, it was too late, as she was unable to see the ball to continue play due to her illness. The opponent even said don't get a ref, as I cannot win points if I am watched. Then stupidly told others after the match the same thing, as a couple of the girls told Anna about it. A couple of days later, a woman came up to console Anna and say she could see that she was ill and the bad calls, and that she had heard the girl say to others that she could not win points with a ref there.

It looks like Anna has passed on that illness to her doubles partner, who said she cannot see the ball during her match this afternoon.

Anna has enjoyed the rest of it and, despite being ill at the start, has played some nice tennis this week.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Not quite sure why you/someone didn't intervene if she was that dizzy and ill?

If the player doesn't realise themselves, didn't someone stpe in?

I've taken my child off the court a couple of times that I can remember - once for play-acting, to be honest, utterly ridiculous - they learnt a lesson - but once for being ill (even though they didn't want to stop)

AnnaM · Lower Club Player

Coup Droit wrote:
Not quite sure why you/someone didn't intervene if she was that dizzy and ill?

If the player doesn't realise themselves, didn't someone stpe in?

I've taken my child off the court a couple of times that I can remember - once for play-acting, to be honest, utterly ridiculous - they learnt a lesson - but once for being ill (even though they didn't want to stop)

It was difficult due to the court situation. Court five can only be accessed through court four, which had a match on. So crossing courts was not an option. There were no officials indoors either. Anna said she did not feel great before the match, but won the first set, 6-0. When Anna went to the floor late on in the second set, I assumed she had just fallen over and was a little slow to get up. It was hard to be certain what was going on, other than Anna was not feeling great. She said she wanted to retire at 6-0 up, but did not want to hand the match to a low-ranked player. The opponent, sensing an opportunity, when she saw Anna was ill, took advantage and started the bad line calls. The calls annoyed Anna so much that she carried on longer than she should have, but did eventually realise that it was just impossible to play, as she could not breathe properly. Anna does know better, but I think the situation got to her and she carried on. Hopefully, it will serve as a good lesson in the future and she will retire when you needs to.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Maybe - but if a player is 16, I would step in, no matter if you can't cross the court or not - officials have to come indoors if asked to and they would help you cross when the other match is sitting down at change of ends

Some juniors are quite self-confident in their presence on the court, the rules, the way things are done; some need a lot of help still (which is absolutely not a criticism)

I've been a parent, and I've been a tournament official, and I've been acting tournament referee (i.e. like stand-in), and I think a story like this of someone being so dizzy that they faint on the court and nothing is done is just wrong and that's where the adults have to intervene.

AnnaM · Lower Club Player

Coup Droit wrote:
Maybe - but if a player is 16, I would step in, no matter if you can't cross the court or not - officials have to come indoors if asked to and they would help you cross when the other match is sitting down at change of ends

Some juniors are quite self-confident in their presence on the court, the rules, the way things are done; some need a lot of help still (which is absolutely not a criticism)

I've been a parent, and I've been a tournament official, and I've been acting tournament referee (i.e. like stand-in), and I think a story like this of someone being so dizzy that they faint on the court and nothing is done is just wrong and that's where the adults have to intervene.

Anna is 22 in September and has a mind of her own She ignores what I say. All I could see was that she was off in her movement and hitting. Obviously, not feeling 100%, but it was not obvious she was dizzy until she came off. The viewing from court three is bad, and no one could have known how bad Anna felt. I had seen her train in the morning and she was ok. She played set one and she was ok, just a little little off. Things only got worse for her mid second set onwards and as I said, no one could be sure what was going on, apart from very obvious bad line calls and Anna not moving well. Anna actually fell over late on in the second set and asked for a ref not long after. They only played for a few more minutes after that before she stopped.