Tim's competitors weeks 22-23

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Tim's competitors weeks 22-23

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Well I have tried to sort out my spreadsheet but down at this level there are a lot of problems, with some competitors having to defend three sets of points - weeks commencing 23rd and 30th May and 6th June last year all drop off during this next fortnight and some played two challengers after getting knocked out early at RG. I simply do not have info re their 20th tournaments which will have to be added in. So I am going to be a coward and wait for Fredrik of tennisfacts.com to come up with the goods, and hope he does so before Tim's match (though I will be out a lot of tomorrow so unless he updates this evening...)

My spreadsheet at present shows Tim having dropped to no 78, 490 points

, because he is defending 35 points at RG and 55 at Queens. The upside is that when it comes to playing Queens, he will have no points to defend at all.

Edit - tennisfacts.com has now been updated but there are a few inconsistencies, where either Halle or Queens or certain challengers have been shown as to be defended for some players and not for others. I have emailed them; waiting for a reply before finishing off my spreadsheet!

-- Edited by Madeline at 23:43, 2006-05-27

No reply yet, this table will have to wait! Unless somebody else can sort it? I have to go out soon (and the French Open is on tv now!)

-- Edited by Madeline at 10:16, 2006-05-28

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

No takers then!

Ok, I have had a go. Not quite like GC77's or Rob's, but it will have to do, I am short of time at the moment. Tennisfacts.com have not replied to my queries - they usually do so quickly - so I have just used the figures I think are correct.

(My tables edited out now Rob has been able to post his, in order to avoid confusion)

-- Edited by Madeline at 09:46, 2006-05-31

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Updated. Not too sure about Kohlschreiber, who is defending 3 sets of points; I think his 19th result is 15 and his 20th 12.

RobC · All-time great

Here's the "GC77" for the Second week of Roland Garros (week 23)

Tim's competitors who are competing in Challengers this week have points from the start of Roland Garros, and gained during RG in brackets, with their points at the start of and during this week alongside.

Running|-------Start of week---------|      Running So 18th    Def1 Def2 Def3 19th 20th
Rank rank  name                        points Points    Far   Result                            Result Result
60      61    Taylor Dent                640      635      out         5          0     10             5
61      62    Bjorn Phau                  629      629        5-out    1        50                      0
62      79    Ruben Ramirez-Hidalgo 525      625      150-out    6        50                      6
63      58    Paul Goldstein              668      611       5-out    15      42     35             15
64      65    Davide Sanguinetti       610      610       35-out   15      35                      15
65      66    Gilles Muller                 605      603       5-out    10       5       10             8
66      57    Stanislas Wawrinka      683      598       5-out    5       90                      5
67      76    Christophe Rochus        555      585       35-out  15      5                       15
68      64    Boris Pashanski            612      582       5-out    35                                25
69      78    Florian Mayer(Wk23) (538)533   578     (5)+60f (15)15 (5)    (20)          (15)
70      74    Wesley Moodie(Wk23)(560)531  561 (5)+35s-out (5)5   (27)   (12)           (5)
71      75    Jonas Bjorkman            558      558       5-out    5        5                        5
72      69    Andreas Seppi              586      555       5-out    36                                27
73      73    Robin Vik (Wk 23)    (598)537   553  (5)+21p-out (8)5   (50)   (21)           (5)
74      77    Potito Starace               542      546       5-out    15      0       16             15
75      71    Vince Spadea                570      540       5-out    20     35                      15
76      72    Tim Henman             570     520       35       25      35     55             5
77      73    Rainer Schuettler          563      518       5-out 15        5       55             10
78      80    Nicolas Mahut               516      515       5-out     6                                  5
79      70    Jurgen Melzer               580      505       5-out   15        75     20             15
80      84    Andrei Pavel                 494      494       5-out 15        5                        9
81      103 Juan Monaco                 413      483       75-out 5         5                        5
82      81    Alessio di Mauro(Wk23)(509)479 479 (5)+1S-out (6)5   (35)                     (5)
83      88    Marcos Daniel        (459)444     479    (5)+40p-out 5      (20)                      5
84      86    Lukas Dlouhy                465      475       75-out 8        50     21             6
85      92   Simon Gruel(Wk23)  (367)466    475 (50e)+14f-out (7)5  (22)   (12)          (5)
86     180   Martin Vasallo-Arguello(q)225      467      265-out 1       12     12            1
87      99    Mardy Fish(Wk23)  (416)411     461   (0)+50s       0        (5)                      0
88      83    Philipp Kohlschreiber     499      459       35-out 15         5       55     42    15     12
89      86    Carlos Berlocq              503      456       5-out   12        50      12             10
90      94    Alexander Waske          440      455       35-out  15        20                      15

R-G 1000 700 450 250 150 75 35 5 (Q:15 8 4)

Prostejov (p) [125k+h] 90   63   40   21    9    1   (Q:3)
Furth(f)          [50k+h] 60   42   27   14    6    1   (Q:3)
Surbiton(s)      [25K+h]50   35   22   12    5    1    (Q:2)
Sassuolo (S)    [25K+h]50   35   22   12    5    1    (Q:2)
Yuba City(y)    [50K]   50   35   22   12    5    1    (Q:2)

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RobC · All-time great

A lot happening in Tim world yesterday: at this level 35 points for a second round make a lot of difference.

The good news for Tim is that he now has an 7 place jump in rankings inthe bag if he wins today: back into the top 70. Eleven of the fourteen directly above him are now out of Roland Garros, and none play today.

The bad news is that behind him, there are still plenty in contention. Ramirez-Hidalgo, Waske, Vanek and Monaco all won, even though Schuettler, Berlocq, Safin and Daniel went out.

If Tim loses today, then only Ramirez- Hidalgo can go past in the second round, and he doesn't play until Thursday, as do most of Tim's competitors

Today's pin- sharpening should be reserved for Phillipp Kohlschreiber, who's third on court 1 against Juan Carlos Ferraro (so it hopefully won't need to be too sharp a pin). Kohlschreiber is one of the players defending three different sets of points this week!

Worst case to the end of Round 3 would be Tim dropping seven places to 81st , as none of the chasing pack meet each other in Rounds 2 or 3.

-- Edited by RobC at 10:22, 2006-05-31

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Rob, I have edited out my table to save confusion, but obviously I still have my spreadsheet. I have one or two 1-point differences with you in the lower orders but quite probably I am wrong, I didn't have time to double and treble check my figures like I usually do.

I do have one big difference - you have Mahut into the second round. Actually Mahut was beaten by Vanek according to the tournament results, so his points drop by 30, and Vanek comes back into your table at around no 86.

RobC · All-time great

Madeline wrote:

Rob, I have edited out my table to save confusion, but obviously I still have my spreadsheet. I have one or two 1-point differences with you in the lower orders but quite probably I am wrong, I didn't have time to double and treble check my figures like I usually do.

Thanks -can you pm me the differences, so I can investigate?

I do have one big difference - you have Mahut into the second round. Actually Mahut was beaten by Vanek according to the tournament results, so his points drop by 30, and Vanek comes back into your table at around no 86.

Doh! The French nation will have been given a brief, cruel hope, while the world thought that Mahut had got through. The good news is that Tim's back to 74th. Table & commentary updated.

RobC · All-time great

The table is updated for Wednesday's results - here's hoping Tim can turn the match around.

If he can't then he'll be relieved that Kohlschreiber was well pinned today, and dropped out. However Lukas Dlouhy sneaked in a match without my noticing, and beat Acasuso in 4 sets, to end up 45 points, or a round 3 win behind Tim.

Tomorrow, apart from the end of the Tim/Tursanov match, we see Ruben Ramirez Hidalgo up against Christophe Rochus: We're gunning for the Belgian, as Ruben will go past Tim if he wins, and Tim doesn't. Also in action behind are Benneteau, Waske, Vanek and Monaco, who all need to win their next two matches to go ahead of Tim.

RobC · All-time great

Go the Rochus Brothers! Olivier is one up against Vanek.

Benneteau is also down one against Baghdatis

RobC · All-time great

Benneteau pulls back a set, and a break up in the third Oi Marcos, you're a rising star! you can beat this French journeyman!

...meanwhile Olivier R is 2 sets and a break up against Vanek - looking good

RobC · All-time great

Benneteau wins the third Come on folks - jab those pins in!

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Olivier beats Vanek 2, 0 & 2. That's the way to do it. Now Olivier, go and explain to your brother that today is the day for your family!

RobC · All-time great

and now he's a break up in the 4th.

mkkreuk · Admin:Moderator + ATP qualifying

benneteau was serving for the match but got broken

RobC · All-time great

Tie Break for Benneteau & Baghdatis.

Waske on court now vs Haas. Going with serve.