JonH comes home wrote:

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Lambda wrote:

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JonH comes home wrote:

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the addict wrote:

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2 points for qualifying to make 14 points in total and could lift Jizel up around 40 places in the rankings - there are 18 players on 14 points currently ranked 1072 to 1089 (including Tara and Talia)

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 How does the ITF split players on the same points? Most tournies played is good or bad factor, or fewer tournies played? More tournies suggests dedication/ fewer tournies suggest better outcome per event? Or is it on counters or who got there first? Or something else?!

And for that matter, how does the ATP do it?

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1. Most points from Grand Slams, WTA 1000s, WTA Finals , if still tied then
2. Most points from WTA events, if still tied then
3. Fewest tournaments played, if still tied then
4. Most points from single tournament, if still tied then
5. 2nd most points from single tournament, etc

-- Edited by Lambda on Monday 16th of December 2024 10:56:11 AM

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 thanks Lambda - do the WTA and ATP both do it the same way?

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Of course they don't  - that would make life too easy ( TA is listing the WTA tiebreakers ).

Though strictly 3) is tournament counters. Even with their official rankings list, the column for "Tournaments Played" is actually showing the number of tournaments where players have a positive counter ( eg. excludes R1 exits in W15s )

Coup Droit wrote:

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Tournaments played also seems to exclude someone who's won a quali round (or two) and then goes out

Which is also ridiculous - tournaments played is not the same as tournaments where you got a point

(No problem with the premise of only using the counter tournaments, whatever .... but they should change the name, it's misleading)

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Well, it will include winning a qualifying round or two and then going out if you earn points eg. winning a W50 QR1 - like Jizel having a counter as soon as she won her QR1 here for an initial 1 point. But yes, not qualifying wins that yield no ranking points - apparently these players never played!

Bottom line is that it is positive counters that matter in the rankings tie breakers and I absolutely agree that it is misleading and very silly for the WTA to continually call these "tournaments played".

The WTA have rather a history of silliness in ranking and naming matters.