But I also dont see Dan or Liam as coaches! And any drugs history wouldnt be a barrier to media work, for sure. Andy is much more likely as a future Davis cup coach, or coach generally, I agree!

Wondering what his partner does and whether they could work together? Dan might consider pursuing entrepreneurial ventures, such as launching a tennis academy or creating a sports-related business focused on training equipment or fitness programs? Hes clearly not afraid of hard work. Each of these paths would allow him to remain connected to the sport he loves while contributing to its growth and development.

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LordBrownof wrote:

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Dan seems to enjoy the team environment so I wouldn't be surprised if he went into coaching, even as a number 2. Liam would make a decent Davis Cup captain...

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 Dan is going to have a problem coaching 

The drug conviction will be a problem 

The fact that he has a quirky game 

A very short tolerance for idiots or anyone who doesn't see things his way 

Just being a good player has very little correlation with being a good coach

He would make an excellent coach for a specific player and he might be able to make that work, but that's probably not broad enough for normal coaching 

There's no way at all, IMO, that he'll be a mainstream LTA coach - he just isn't corporate enough - isn't corporate at all !

Liam has good people skills, but I don't know if he is a 'clever' tennis person - I'm not convinced that he's someone who looks at a game and sees straight off where the issues are. He also isn't very 'corporate' either - I can't see him either as a top LTA coach 

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 Am not sure a doping violation in itself would prevent a player  enjoying a coaching or media career. We're not talking Lance Armstrong here. Martina Hingis was also banned for cocaine and went on to coach and work in the media.

That said I degree that Dan is unlikely to be a national coach, but can certainly see him working 1:1 with someone.

 

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 Boris Becker of course HAS a conviction for fraud and he is doing both media and coaching work, albeit in his case travel is proving less easy to some places and gets in the way. Nonetheless, it isnt stopping him getting work, it seems. 

Coup Droit wrote:

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JonH comes home wrote:

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9vicman wrote:

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Coup Droit wrote:

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LordBrownof wrote:

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Dan seems to enjoy the team environment so I wouldn't be surprised if he went into coaching, even as a number 2. Liam would make a decent Davis Cup captain...

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 Dan is going to have a problem coaching 

The drug conviction will be a problem 

The fact that he has a quirky game 

A very short tolerance for idiots or anyone who doesn't see things his way 

Just being a good player has very little correlation with being a good coach

He would make an excellent coach for a specific player and he might be able to make that work, but that's probably not broad enough for normal coaching 

There's no way at all, IMO, that he'll be a mainstream LTA coach - he just isn't corporate enough - isn't corporate at all !

Liam has good people skills, but I don't know if he is a 'clever' tennis person - I'm not convinced that he's someone who looks at a game and sees straight off where the issues are. He also isn't very 'corporate' either - I can't see him either as a top LTA coach 

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 Am not sure a doping violation in itself would prevent a player  enjoying a coaching or media career. We're not talking Lance Armstrong here. Martina Hingis was also banned for cocaine and went on to coach and work in the media.

That said I degree that Dan is unlikely to be a national coach, but can certainly see him working 1:1 with someone.

 

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 Boris Becker of course HAS a conviction for fraud and he is doing both media and coaching work, albeit in his case travel is proving less easy to some places and gets in the way. Nonetheless, it isnt stopping him getting work, it seems. 

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 Boris is a multi-Grand Slam winner

It's hardly the same profile as Evo

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 I know, im just saying having done cocaine and been suspended from tennis isnt going to get in the way of anything Evo wants to do. Other things may, like aptitude or interest, or profile, but not that. 

Coup Droit wrote:

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I don't agree but that's fine :)

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  Half any prospective clients will have done cocaine anyway  

No player (not Evo, nor anyone else) can waltz in to coach top players - there's too many ex-players offering their services and not enough current top players who can afford to hire a coach

He's got no experiece, no qualifications, nothing that says he's any good at coaching (not a criticism of him, just a fact)

And it's extremely unlikely that he'll get taken on as a federation coach (for many reasons) so he won't get the easy gigs. Nor is he a great self-publicist - he hates to sing his praises - he's the opposite of someone like Mouratoglou, all charm and smarm

Now, I could see Evo being taken on by some quirky player who want's to work with a quirky, wily person, maybe for a short time to work on courtcraft, say. But I also think Dan is one of those 'naturals' in that, and may find it quite difficult to explain how to do it. 

As Benneteau once said, it's good to have a coach who's not a real natural but has had to work really hard because he/she'll understand what needs to be done and how to do it - the 'naturals' just look perplexed that their player doesn't instinctively realise that, of course, you should hit the ball down the line when in x schema of play

(And I could also see it falling apart very quickly).

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Friday 6th of September 2024 03:12:46 PM