Weeks 33 & 34 - ATP Masters 1000 - Cincinnati, OH, USA

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Weeks 33 & 34 - ATP Masters 1000 - Cincinnati, OH, USA

Var · Pro player

Have a look at this videotape JonH, it isnt pretty. Really aggressive www.skysports.com/tennis/video/36399/13197113/jack-draper-smashes-racket-in-cincinnati

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Ive not seen how Harriet acts so cant comment- I dont mind racquet smashing, Jack did it after a rubbish drop shot and I sort of get it. But he does seem to be all over the place recently and hope he reins it in. Maybe been taking lessons from Rublev.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:

L28: Sebastian Korda & Ben Shelton (USA/USA) CR 163 (61+102) vs Neal Skupski & Michael Venus (NZL) CR 39 (27+12)

L28: (ALT) Julian Cash & Robert Galloway (USA) CR 79 (40+39) vs Neal Skupski & Michael Venus (NZL) CR 36 (25+11) hmm

smile Pity it has to be against Neal & Michael.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Jamie and Dodig won in two sets.

Neal v Julian just started

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
L28: Ivan Dodig (CRO) & Jamie Murray CR 51 (18+33) defeated Karen Khachanov & Andrey Rublev (***/***) CR 215 (83+132) by 6-3 7-6(4)
L16: (3) Rajeev Ram (USA) & Joe Salisbury CR 11 (5+6) vs Kevin Krawietz & Tim Pütz (GER/GER) CR 44 (22+22)
L16: (7) Harri Heliövaara (FIN) & Henry Patten CR 26 (12+14) vs Wesley Koolhof & Nikola Mektic (NED/CRO) CR 43 (17+26)

L28: Neal Skupski & Michael Venus (NZL) CR 36 (25+11) defeated (ALT) Julian Cash & Robert Galloway (USA) CR 79 (40+39) by 6-3 6-7(4) [12-10] hmm

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L16: Neal Skupski & Michael Venus (NZL) CR 36 (25+11) vs (6) Santiago González & Edouard Roger-Vasselin (MEX/FRA) CR 32 (19+13)

Var · Pro player

JonH comes home wrote:
Ive not seen how Harriet acts so cant comment- I dont mind racquet smashing, Jack did it after a rubbish drop shot and I sort of get it. But he does seem to be all over the place recently and hope he reins it in. Maybe been taking lessons from Rublev.

Yea its a strange turn of behaviour. Media will be quick to jump on it if he doesnt rein it in me thinks JonH.

Nix · Futures level

JonH comes home wrote:
Ive not seen how Harriet acts so cant comment- I dont mind racquet smashing, Jack did it after a rubbish drop shot and I sort of get it. But he does seem to be all over the place recently and hope he reins it in. Maybe been taking lessons from Rublev.

He doesn't seem to be quite at the level he was before he started getting those injuries. I don't quite know why as before he looked like he could beat anyone on his day and now he doesn't quite look at that level. Not sure why, maybe he's training more to be resilient and not break down than being explosive? Just guessing. Any other views from the experts here?

Still obviously a very good player but I can see why he's frustrated even though smashing rackets won't help and isn't a good look.

Julia Carrot · All-time great

Nix wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Ive not seen how Harriet acts so cant comment- I dont mind racquet smashing, Jack did it after a rubbish drop shot and I sort of get it. But he does seem to be all over the place recently and hope he reins it in. Maybe been taking lessons from Rublev.
He doesn't seem to be quite at the level he was before he started getting those injuries. I don't quite know why as before he looked like he could beat anyone on his day and now he doesn't quite look at that level. Not sure why, maybe he's training more to be resilient and not break down than being explosive? Just guessing. Any other views from the experts here?
Still obviously a very good player but I can see why he's frustrated even though smashing rackets won't help and isn't a good look.

Maybe it helps him for now. I unfortunately didn't see the match. I presume he wasn't also raging at others? Umpire or team?. That is the behaviour that I wouldn't like to see.

indiana · Tennis legend

Actually Jack was saying a couple of months ago that he had to become more attacking rather than grind out matches in the way that got him to #40. He wasn't satisfied with that so needed to change up to make the step up to where he wanted to go.

I found it a little curious at the time and whatever he has been trying to do of late doesn't seem to be particularly

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/tennis/jack-draper-stuttgart-title-atp-b1164922.html

-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 15th of August 2024 10:35:33 AM

Nix · Futures level

indiana wrote:
Actually Jack was saying a couple of months ago that he had to become more attacking rather than grind out matches in the way that got him to #40. He wasn't satisfied with that so needed to change up to make the step up to where he wanted to go.

I found it a little curious at the time and whatever he has been trying to do of late doesn't seem to be particularly working.

standard.co.uk/sport/tennis/jack-draper-stuttgart-title-atp-1154921

That's interesting. It's not how I saw it from watching him play. As I say I used to think he could beat pretty much anyone when he was on song, but as you say whatever is happening now doesn't seem to be working brilliantly (obviously it's all relative and taking into account he's still playing at a very good level around the top 30!). Hopefully it's just a blip.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Actually Jack was saying a couple of months ago that he had to become more attacking rather than grind out matches in the way that got him to #40. He wasn't satisfied with that so needed to change up to make the step up to where he wanted to go.

I found it a little curious at the time and whatever he has been trying to do of late doesn't seem to be particularly working.

standard.co.uk/sport/tennis/jack-draper-stuttgart-title-atp-b1164922.html

-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 15th of August 2024 09:39:02 AM

thanks Indy - can I check the link as the link is taking me to 3 arrests at a Pro Palestine march on May Day in Traflagar Square, haha

indiana · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
indiana wrote:
Actually Jack was saying a couple of months ago that he had to become more attacking rather than grind out matches in the way that got him to #40. He wasn't satisfied with that so needed to change up to make the step up to where he wanted to go.

I found it a little curious at the time and whatever he has been trying to do of late doesn't seem to be particularly working.

standard.co.uk/sport/tennis/jack-draper-stuttgart-title-atp-b1164922.html

-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 15th of August 2024 09:39:02 AM
thanks Indy - can I check the link as the link is taking me to 3 arrests at a Pro Palestine march on May Day in Traflagar Square, haha

Yes, I see that. Strange because if you copy and paste the link into a browser it seems to work.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
indiana wrote:
Actually Jack was saying a couple of months ago that he had to become more attacking rather than grind out matches in the way that got him to #40. He wasn't satisfied with that so needed to change up to make the step up to where he wanted to go.

I found it a little curious at the time and whatever he has been trying to do of late doesn't seem to be particularly working.

standard.co.uk/sport/tennis/jack-draper-stuttgart-title-atp-b1164922.html

-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 15th of August 2024 09:39:02 AM
thanks Indy - can I check the link as the link is taking me to 3 arrests at a Pro Palestine march on May Day in Traflagar Square, haha
Yes, I see that. Strange because if you copy and paste the link into a browser it seems to work.

that works! thanks

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:

L16: Neal Skupski & Michael Venus (NZL) CR 36 (25+11) vs (6) Santiago González & Edouard Roger-Vasselin (MEX/FRA) CR 32 (19+13)

L16: (3) Rajeev Ram (USA) & Joe Salisbury CR 11 (5+6) vs Kevin Krawietz & Tim Pütz (GER/GER) CR 44 (22+22)

L16: (7) Harri Heliövaara (FIN) & Henry Patten CR 26 (12+14) vs Wesley Koolhof & Nikola Mektic (NED/CRO) CR 43 (17+26)

L16: (5) Simone Bolelli & Andrea Vavassori (ITA/ITA) CR 19 (10+9) vs Ivan Dodig (CRO) & Jamie Murray CR 51 (18+33)