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JonH comes home wrote:
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I don't think it matters who dumped who because it obviously wasn't working anymore as a partnership - they would never have won the title with their previous partners

 Yes agree it doesn't matter who dumped who, but couldn't remember what had happened. Yes, Lloyd and Harri had got stale.

What it is interesting is that the LTA denied Harri access to Louis Cayer and wild cards to Henry and Harri in the grass court season because GB are playing Finland in the Davis Cup.

The fact that Harri was injured at the French, the fact they have won 5 of 9 tournaments together. So many superlatives. They click and it's great to see.

 At the press conference above, Henry was asked about Davis Cup and aspirations to play that. He said he would love to but went on to comment about politics surrounding DC selection ( my interpretation of why he said). Does he mean Leon having favourites that he picks or the LTA requiring certain players to be picked? Or just that Henry is an outsider currently as a relative newbie? 

anyone else pick up on that? 

 Yes I did. What was interesting was when Henry went on to say the following: "Leon will say, Well done. If I hear more from him, great. If not, then that's kind of the way it goes."

So it sounds like it's more an issue of communication rather than not being picked (yet) for Davis Cup. And I wonder if also linked to the fact that they couldn't get support from Louis in the grass court season. Although Louis was watching the final.

I mean GB does have an embarrassment of riches in doubles, even if they have had less success at the highest levels this season.



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I didn't know they didn't have any support from Cayre

Doesn't say much for Louis, does it?

Bit embarrassing really

I mean, you're supposed to be the big-I-Am in doubles and the pair you DON'T coach go on to the win the championship?

i hope he sees the funny side

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Coup Droit wrote:

I didn't know they didn't have any support from Cayre

Doesn't say much for Louis, does it?

Bit embarrassing really

I mean, you're supposed to be the big-I-Am in doubles and the pair you DON'T coach go on to the win the championship?

i hope he sees the funny side

 It's the LTA not Louis? I assume you know that?



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Blue_Belle wrote:
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I didn't know they didn't have any support from Cayre

Doesn't say much for Louis, does it?

Bit embarrassing really

I mean, you're supposed to be the big-I-Am in doubles and the pair you DON'T coach go on to the win the championship?

i hope he sees the funny side

 It's the LTA not Louis? I assume you know that?

 You mean it's the LTA which decides if Louis supports them or not?

Yes, obviously

But it makes no difference to it being really embarrassing for him smile



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Blue_Belle wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:

I didn't know they didn't have any support from Cayre

Doesn't say much for Louis, does it?

Bit embarrassing really

I mean, you're supposed to be the big-I-Am in doubles and the pair you DON'T coach go on to the win the championship?

i hope he sees the funny side

 It's the LTA not Louis? I assume you know that?

 Yes it's the LTA. It's all a bit random. The idea that Henry and Harri getting tips from Louis or wild cards into grass court tournaments will somehow put Britain at a disadvantage in a Davis Cup doubles match feels like a stretch.

And he was supporting them yesterday.



-- Edited by 9vicman on Sunday 14th of July 2024 09:47:26 AM

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Coup Droit wrote:
Blue_Belle wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:

I didn't know they didn't have any support from Cayre

Doesn't say much for Louis, does it?

Bit embarrassing really

I mean, you're supposed to be the big-I-Am in doubles and the pair you DON'T coach go on to the win the championship?

i hope he sees the funny side

 It's the LTA not Louis? I assume you know that?

 You mean it's the LTA which decides if Louis supports them or not?

Yes, obviously

But it makes no difference to it being really embarrassing for him smile

 Should be more embarrassing for the LTA



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Blue_Belle wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Blue_Belle wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:

I didn't know they didn't have any support from Cayre

Doesn't say much for Louis, does it?

Bit embarrassing really

I mean, you're supposed to be the big-I-Am in doubles and the pair you DON'T coach go on to the win the championship?

i hope he sees the funny side

 It's the LTA not Louis? I assume you know that?

 You mean it's the LTA which decides if Louis supports them or not?

Yes, obviously

But it makes no difference to it being really embarrassing for him smile

 Should be more embarrassing for the LTA

 No, that's just more of, more of - and actually the LTA were right - shows it wasn't needed

Poor Louis now has a CV that reads:

2024: Top coach for all the top GB doubles players, imparting my expertise and really making a differnce - oh, apart from the guy who actually won the Wimbledon Championship, nah, I had nothing to do with that  



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Sunday 14th of July 2024 09:59:14 AM

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Coup Droit wrote:
Blue_Belle wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Blue_Belle wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:

I didn't know they didn't have any support from Cayre

Doesn't say much for Louis, does it?

Bit embarrassing really

I mean, you're supposed to be the big-I-Am in doubles and the pair you DON'T coach go on to the win the championship?

i hope he sees the funny side

 It's the LTA not Louis? I assume you know that?

 You mean it's the LTA which decides if Louis supports them or not?

Yes, obviously

But it makes no difference to it being really embarrassing for him smile

 Should be more embarrassing for the LTA

 No, that's just more of, more of - and actually the LTA were right - shows it wasn't needed

Poor Louis now has a CV that reads:

2024: Top coach for all the top GB doubles players, imparting my expertise and really making a differnce - oh, apart from the guy who actually won the Wimbledon Championship, nah, I had nothing to do with that  

 

 smile



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Henry mentioned he was part of the British system , thats Louiss thing isnt it? Although a coach callled Calvin was mentioned as well if I heard correctly? Is Calvin the one who does Luke Johnson as well? Cant remember his surname?

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Henry mentioned he was part of the British system , thats Louiss thing isnt it? Although a coach callled Calvin was mentioned as well if I heard correctly? Is Calvin the one who does Luke Johnson as well? Cant remember his surname?

 Yes coached by Calvin Betton.



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Henry mentioned he was part of the British system , thats Louiss thing isnt it? Although a coach callled Calvin was mentioned as well if I heard correctly? Is Calvin the one who does Luke Johnson as well? Cant remember his surname?

 Yes coached by Calvin Betton.

 Thanks - and is Calvin linked to Louis in coaching terms? 



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My understanding is that Louis's role is on top of a player's individual coaching arrangements.

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My understanding is that Louis's role is on top of a player's individual coaching arrangements.

 Ok, like the performance director/ expert coach. so Calvin, Henry and Luke would access him etc in return for some funding arrangement? 



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Only just catching up - fabulous win for Henry/Harri and a great watch smile

Seem like lovely guys and looking forwards to watching more



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JonH comes home wrote:

9vicman wrote:

My understanding is that Louis's role is on top of a player's individual coaching arrangements.

 Ok, like the performance director/ expert coach. so Calvin, Henry and Luke would access him etc in return for some funding arrangement? 

Louis is the men's lead for the LTA Doubles Programme. It's LTA sponsored so I don't think there's any funding from the players.

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