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Weeks 27-28 - The Championships, Wimbledon (grass)


GAMEOVER wrote:
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I knew it was tempting providence when Simon Briggs wrote in the Telegraph that Emma had what looked like a gimme against Lulu Sun.


 I think Simon Briggs under rated Lulu Sun as she defeated Qinwen Zheng runner up in this years Australian Open in the 1st round. 

 


Although I took Emma to win, that was a bit of an ignorant comment from Briggs

 



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GAMEOVER wrote:

Lulu Sun survived a match point in the second round of qualifying against Gabriela Knutson.


 Yes, we can't say 'but she beat Qiwen' if we don't also have she was 1 point away from losing in QR2

If Briggs said she had what LOOKS like an easy match, then he was right

(My only real concern is if her lack of pace on her forehand was a wrist thing.....the rest is just part of normal tennis life)



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JonH comes home wrote:

I didnt follow yesterday but what happened to Keys to make her retire?


 She pulled her hamstring 

Right towards the end

But, as I remember, not at 5-2 - Paolini was already staging a comeback - it was more like half-way through the 5-3 game 


 And it is worth remembering that Ms Paolini won the second from 5-1 down.


 No, I think Paolini lost the second 

She worked her way back but lost it


Oops. Mea culpa. I remembered someone won the second set after it being 5-1. I recall it got to 5-5. I blame my age.



-- Edited by christ on Monday 8th of July 2024 06:10:49 PM

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The women are dropping like flies: Kalinskaya's turn to retire today. Yet another unpredictable women's Slam.

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9vicman wrote:

The women are dropping like flies: Kalinskaya's turn to retire today. Yet another unpredictable women's Slam.


 Yes, although at least she retired to a truly class player 



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Ostapenko only player in last 8 to not lose a set and lost 15 games in 8 sets. Emphatic.

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Coup Droit wrote:
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The women are dropping like flies: Kalinskaya's turn to retire today. Yet another unpredictable women's Slam.


 Yes, although at least she retired to a truly class player 


 Absolutely. And the odds on favourite. I hope we get something more interesting than a Rybakina-Navarro final. Not saying the tennis wouldn't be high quality, but you need someone to route for.



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foobarbaz wrote:

Well I thought Lulu Sun played mostly flawless tennis today, a good strong serve, lots of power on both wings, some tremendous angles from the southpaw, ruthless with anything short, good footwork, taking balls out of the air with ease, a cracking forehand, and ice-cold shot selection. Emma has played better, but she was a bit flummoxed by the angles from Lulu Sun. Emma was well beaten, as was under what seemed like continuous press from the off. No shame in that, for Raducanu, being beaten by the better player on the day.

Emma will be back, stronger and more experienced. Not bad getting three good wins. Who would have thought a New Zealander would emerge like this, Lulu might do more damage yet. Go on Lulu, win it.


 Of course, on the mens side, Chris Lewis was a Wimbledon finalist in 1983 and Onny Parun in Australian Open in 1973. NZ tennis has been pretty quiet since but with those two and players like Russell Simpson, they did have a period when NZ tennis was prominent. Recently, the odd doubles player like Michael Venus. 

Not sure they have ever had a woman player of note. 



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This Sun - Vekic match is absolutely absorbing. Great TV even if not always great tennis.

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The implacable Lulu Sun has dropped the second set just like she did against Emma. Be interesting to see if Donna Veki can do any better in the third now.

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Neil Gee wrote:

The implacable Lulu Sun has dropped the second set just like she did against Emma. Be interesting to see if Donna Veki can do any better in the third now.


 Donna nailed her in the 3rd. 6-1. Easiest part of the match for Donna, Sun had no answers and really dropped her level. Well done Donna.



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I watched the end of the 2nd set, Vekic with a crazy number of dfs as she failed to serve out the set, then broke with a delightful drop shot. 3rd set Lulu Sun could barely get a return in play, regardless of whether it was 1st or 2nd. If you attack Lulu Sun she really does not look that special at all.

Emma's decision to play so passively against Lulu Sun is just beyond my comprehension unless her injuries were seriously restricting what she could do. I watched Lulu Sun's match against Lin Zhu; it was clear from that match that Emma needed to deploy her weapons, instead she did the complete opposite.

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Var wrote:
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The implacable Lulu Sun has dropped the second set just like she did against Emma. Be interesting to see if Donna Veki can do any better in the third now.


 Donna nailed her in the 3rd. 6-1. Easiest part of the match for Donna, Sun had no answers and really dropped her level. Well done Donna.


 Extraordinary. For 3 sets against Emma and then 2 sets here Lulu looked like nothing could stress her or affect her concentration, she was like a tennis machine, but she was broke early in the third set and that was it then she unraveled completely.



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kundalini wrote:

I watched the end of the 2nd set, Vekic with a crazy number of dfs as she failed to serve out the set, then broke with a delightful drop shot. 3rd set Lulu Sun could barely get a return in play, regardless of whether it was 1st or 2nd. If you attack Lulu Sun she really does not look that special at all.

Emma's decision to play so passively against Lulu Sun is just beyond my comprehension unless her injuries were seriously restricting what she could do. I watched Lulu Sun's match against Lin Zhu; it was clear from that match that Emma needed to deploy her weapons, instead she did the complete opposite.


 Absolutely.



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foobarbaz wrote:

Well I thought Lulu Sun played mostly flawless tennis today, a good strong serve, lots of power on both wings, some tremendous angles from the southpaw, ruthless with anything short, good footwork, taking balls out of the air with ease, a cracking forehand, and ice-cold shot selection. Emma has played better, but she was a bit flummoxed by the angles from Lulu Sun. Emma was well beaten, as was under what seemed like continuous press from the off. No shame in that, for Raducanu, being beaten by the better player on the day.

Emma will be back, stronger and more experienced. Not bad getting three good wins. Who would have thought a New Zealander would emerge like this, Lulu might do more damage yet. Go on Lulu, win it.


 Of course, on the mens side, Chris Lewis was a Wimbledon finalist in 1983 and Onny Parun in Australian Open in 1973. NZ tennis has been pretty quiet since but with those two and players like Russell Simpson, they did have a period when NZ tennis was prominent. Recently, the odd doubles player like Michael Venus. 

Not sure they have ever had a woman player of note. 


 Belinda Cordwell from New Zealand lost in the semi finals in 3 sets to Helena Sukova in the 1989 Australian Open. 



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