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RE: Week 26 - The Championships, Wimbledon (grass) - women's qualifying


Coup Droit wrote:

For people who like multiples, the odds at Bet365 are:

Marni - 1.33
Sonay - 1.44
Katy - 1.57
Mika - 1.83 (which is exactly evens)
Millie - 2
Hannah - 2.10
Mimi - 2.10
Emily - 2.62

So three are odds-on favourites, one at evens, three are really close and even the 'most unlikely' is not far off

Confirms that betters thinks this will be a lot closer than the men......



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Tuesday 25th of June 2024 07:15:24 AM


Hey - I dont follow betting odds but always thought 2 was evens as per paste below - whats the maths on 1.83 and how does multiples differ from decimals?! I was always brought up on 2/1 , 7/2 type odds so not sure Ive ever understood these types of odds to be honest! Sorry if Im being thick ! 

 In decimal odds, evens is shown as 2.00. Using the earlier example, a £10 wager at 2.00 would return £20 combining both your profit and original stake.18 Dec 2023



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Evens is only 2 if the betting agency makes no money - which is not the case, needless to say

1.83 effectively is evens, given the cut that Bet365 makes

It's 1.83 for Mika and 1.83 for her opponent

(Other betting sites might have a bigger or smaller cut)


Many people - including SC - find multiples easier because there's no divison and multiplication needed

It just means: if you place £1, you get back £1.83


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There is apparently a difference between arithmetic and bookmaking: when I did sums at school 50:50 was - and remains evens: the definition of evens being a fifty/fifty chance of winning. "Bookies taking their cut" was never factored in!

Surely, then, 2.0 is evens (i.e. if you win, you win the same amount as your stake), 1.83 is something else: "Bet 365 parity" or similar - if the bookies took a bigger cut then "evens" could be 1.8, or 1.5 or whatever.

I can start to see other areas where this could make maths fun: "the square of the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares of both other sides, minus a bit for the bookies ..."

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Thanks for the explanations! 2 seems like evens to me despite those, Im with Christ, in this at least !

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christ wrote:

There is apparently a difference between arithmetic and bookmaking: when I did sums at school 50:50 was - and remains evens: the definition of evens being a fifty/fifty chance of winning. "Bookies taking their cut" was never factored in!

Surely, then, 2.0 is evens (i.e. if you win, you win the same amount as your stake), 1.83 is something else: "Bet 365 parity" or similar - if the bookies took a bigger cut then "evens" could be 1.8, or 1.5 or whatever.

I can start to see other areas where this could make maths fun: "the square of the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares of both other sides, minus a bit for the bookies ..."


 What I meant was 1.83 was evens for the betting site odds that I put up

Hence, you can compare all the rest

And otherwise people would think that Mika was favourite (as she's less than 2). 

But she isn't favourite - she's evens with the other player

i.e. yes, of course 2 is evens in basic maths, but for people who want to see how the bookies view the odds of a player winning, you need to know what evens is for that site 



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Does that imply by the way that the bookie in the above case takes 8.33 percent margin ie 2-1.8333= .16667/2 = 0.8333 ?

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Just watching on BBC, does Anne Keothavong age at all? She looks like she could be playing!

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Im in London for the day tomorrow and was going to head down to Roehampton but the website says theyve sold out, doh! Does anybody know if you can buy tickets on site?

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What's the point of the BBC getting the rights to show qualifying if half the matches are between foreigners that no one's ever heard of? Surely it is the perfect opportunity to showcase our up-and-coming players, especially when we have a rich crop.



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Apparently they do have some on the door tickets

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emmsie69 wrote:

Apparently they do have some on the door tickets


 Thank you- I might chance it



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Emily got the double break but just broken back

4-1*

Marni was broken from game point up (missing a fairly routine backhand volley on game point) but has levelled it back at *2-2

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A better start than yesterday with Emily taking the 1st set

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Marni wastes a couple of break points with poor returns. Frustrating especially as Mlad seems to be struggling a little with her lower back.

*3-3

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Interesting watching Armani while listening to John Lloyd and Naomi Cavaday. Marni gives it a great crack (and could have led 4-2), but sometimes could benefit from taking a little off the ball and changing things up.

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