Week 25 - WTA250 - Birmingham, Great Britain Grass

the addict · Tennis legend

Week 25 - WTA250 - Birmingham, Great Britain Grass

9vicman · Satellite level

Feel a little sorry for Edgbaston in its last year as a WTA event. A decent field, but a lack of stories if Harriet loses as expected. It has definitely been Nottingham's poorer cousin.

But there's no way you are going to have three weeks of title contending performances.

PaulM · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
PaulM wrote:
Yup that's Katie out 3-6 retired. Chance she may just slip out the Wimbledon seedings I think.

-- Edited by PaulM on Tuesday 18th of June 2024 06:08:49 PM
Looks like there are 6 players beneath her who could overtake her this week - but they are in Berlin or Birmingham so only one or two could do it.

I think Krejcikova, Mertens and Fernandez will all pass her?

Interesting that they've scheduled Eden and Sam for doubles as the only QF playing tomorrow (and before one of the first rounds plays). That would signal to me Eden is, understandably, not getting a Wimbledon qualifying wildcard and needs to get to sign-in for the play-offs. I believe decisions were made today and players have been informed ahead of announcement tomorrow.

the addict · Tennis legend

PaulM wrote:
the addict wrote:
PaulM wrote:
Yup that's Katie out 3-6 retired. Chance she may just slip out the Wimbledon seedings I think.

-- Edited by PaulM on Tuesday 18th of June 2024 06:08:49 PM
Looks like there are 6 players beneath her who could overtake her this week - but they are in Berlin or Birmingham so only one or two could do it.
I think Krejcikova, Mertens and Fernandez will all pass her?

Interesting that they've scheduled Eden and Sam for doubles as the only QF playing tomorrow (and before one of the first rounds plays). That would signal to me Eden is, understandably, not getting a Wimbledon qualifying wildcard and needs to get to sign-in for the play-offs. I believe decisions were made today and players have been informed ahead of announcement tomorrow.

Yes, I think those three may well pass her. Krejcikova needs a SF, Mertens needs a SF and Fernandez a QF - all are possible from the draw. The other three I spotted were Kudermetova (needs Berlin final), Bouzkova (needs the title here) and Xinyu Wang (needs Berlin final).

I'm pretty sure Eden will be in the play-offs - but presumably she'd only need to get there to play on Thursday - signing in by phone must be possible

PaulM · Tennis legend

Yes, I meant if she wasn't scheduled to play tomorrow she couldn't play play-offs as she'd have to play her quarter final on Thursday.

SuperT · Futures level

PaulM wrote:
Yup that's Katie out 3-6 retired. Chance she may just slip out the Wimbledon seedings I think.

-- Edited by PaulM on Tuesday 18th of June 2024 06:08:49 PM

I'm not surprised. It was obvious on Sunday that she wasn't well and I was hoping she would withdraw and rest this week. I wonder how much pressure the LTA put on our girls to play these events?

Barefoot · Lower Club Player

I didnt realise she might lose her seeding spot - perhaps she was hoping a few more points could sure it up, rather than just the pressure of being a Brit (also possible!) as otherwise I was baffled why she was playing.

HarryGem · Club Coach

the addict wrote:
PaulM wrote:
the addict wrote:
PaulM wrote:
Yup that's Katie out 3-6 retired. Chance she may just slip out the Wimbledon seedings I think.

-- Edited by PaulM on Tuesday 18th of June 2024 06:08:49 PM
Looks like there are 6 players beneath her who could overtake her this week - but they are in Berlin or Birmingham so only one or two could do it.
I think Krejcikova, Mertens and Fernandez will all pass her?

Interesting that they've scheduled Eden and Sam for doubles as the only QF playing tomorrow (and before one of the first rounds plays). That would signal to me Eden is, understandably, not getting a Wimbledon qualifying wildcard and needs to get to sign-in for the play-offs. I believe decisions were made today and players have been informed ahead of announcement tomorrow.
Yes, I think those three may well pass her. Krejcikova needs a SF, Mertens needs a SF and Fernandez a QF - all are possible from the draw. The other three I spotted were Kudermetova (needs Berlin final), Bouzkova (needs the title here) and Xinyu Wang (needs Berlin final).
I'm pretty sure Eden will be in the play-offs - but presumably she'd only need to get there to play on Thursday - signing in by phone must be possible

According to open Era live rankings Mertens is currently 12 points behind Katie, Fernandez 16 and Krejcikova 23 points behind. Maybe I'm reading it incorrectly? Seems quite possible that two of those would overtake Katie. All the others are too far behind really unless they make the final/win etc. as you say.

Heather played very well today but really blew it in those last few games. An example of a player not used to winning that many matches of late against good opponents. Just too many unforced errors at key moments.

the addict · Tennis legend

You aren't reading it wrong. The potential points for each round are shown on the right which is whee I picked out the rounds they need to reach. It's the points which are or are not counters that make it complcated (eg Mertens points from Birmingham are a non-counter as she has several 60 point counters so needs to better that)

the addict · Tennis legend

Update on the doubles draw

QF: (1) Su-Wei Hsieh & Elise Mertens (TPE/BEL) CR 3 (2+1) vs (WC) Samantha Murray Sharan & Eden Silva CR 330 (146+184)
QF: Tereza Mihalikova (SVK) & Olivia Nicholls CR 129 (58+71) vs Asia Muhammad (USA) / Aldila Sutjiadi (INA) CR66 (34+32)

L16: Harriet Dart & Maia Lumsden CR 179 (114+65) vs (3) Marie Bouzkova & Sara Sorribes Tormo (CZE/ESP) CR 44 (23+21)

L16: Greet Minnen (BEL) & Heather Watson CR 152 (95+47) vs (2) Gabriela Dabrowski & Erin Routliffe (CAN/NZL) CR 10 (3+7)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Harriet and Maia lost 5 & 5

9vicman · Satellite level

I have seen people say that it can better to be unseeded than seeded 25-32, as those seeded 25-32 will definitely play seeds 1-8 in the third round. Appreciate this means you could be drawn against Rybakina or Sabalenka in the first round!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

very good doubles win for Heather and Greet over Dabrowski and Routliffe - shock?!

the addict · Tennis legend

Today's doubles results

QF: (1) Su-Wei Hsieh & Elise Mertens (TPE/BEL) CR 3 (2+1) def (WC) Samantha Murray Sharan & Eden Silva CR 330 (146+184) 6-0 6-4

L16: Harriet Dart & Maia Lumsden CR 179 (114+65) lost to (3) Marie Bouzkova & Sara Sorribes Tormo (CZE/ESP) CR 44 (23+21) 5-7 5-7

L16: Greet Minnen (BEL) & Heather Watson CR 152 (95+47) vs (2) Gabriela Dabrowski & Erin Routliffe (CAN/NZL) CR 10 (3+7) 6-3 6-2 biggrin

seagull · Hall of fame

the addict wrote:
PaulM wrote:
the addict wrote:
PaulM wrote:
Yup that's Katie out 3-6 retired. Chance she may just slip out the Wimbledon seedings I think.

-- Edited by PaulM on Tuesday 18th of June 2024 06:08:49 PM
Looks like there are 6 players beneath her who could overtake her this week - but they are in Berlin or Birmingham so only one or two could do it.
I think Krejcikova, Mertens and Fernandez will all pass her?

Interesting that they've scheduled Eden and Sam for doubles as the only QF playing tomorrow (and before one of the first rounds plays). That would signal to me Eden is, understandably, not getting a Wimbledon qualifying wildcard and needs to get to sign-in for the play-offs. I believe decisions were made today and players have been informed ahead of announcement tomorrow.
Yes, I think those three may well pass her. Krejcikova needs a SF, Mertens needs a SF and Fernandez a QF - all are possible from the draw. The other three I spotted were Kudermetova (needs Berlin final), Bouzkova (needs the title here) and Xinyu Wang (needs Berlin final).
I'm pretty sure Eden will be in the play-offs - but presumably she'd only need to get there to play on Thursday - signing in by phone must be possible

Fernandez has just lost the first set.