Week 25 - ATP 500 - cinch Championships - The Queen's Club, London Great Britain (grass)

seagull · Hall of fame

Week 25 - ATP 500 - cinch Championships - The Queen's Club, London Great Britain (grass)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Wow, you couldn't ask for better than that.....

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

For Jack , if he gets through , he could play Alcaraz - Id fancy that at this stage of a grass event!

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L32: Mariano Navone (ARG) WR 29 (= CH) vs Jack Draper WR 40 (CH = 35 last month)

L32: (WC) Andy Murray WR 97 (CH = 1 in November 2016) vs Qualifier

L32: (PR) Milos Raonic (CAN) WR 197 (CH = 3 in November 2016) vs Cameron Norrie WR 39 (CH = 8 in September 2016)

L32: Tomás Martín Etcheverry (ARG) WR 31 (CH = 27 in February) vs (WC) Billy Harris WR 183 (CH = 181 in March)

L32: (WC) Daniel Evans WR 62 (CH = 21 last August) vs (SE) Brandon Nakashima (USA) WR 70 (CH = 43 in October 2022)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

QR1: (q7) Rinky Hijikata (AUS) WR 80 defeated (qWC) Henry Searle WR 630 by 4 & 3

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
QR1: (q7) Rinky Hijikata (AUS) WR 80 defeated (qWC) Henry Searle WR 630 by 4 & 3

QR1: (q5) Mackenzie McDonald (USA) WR 74 defeated (qWC) Paul Jubb WR 298 by 2 & 1

The boys out of their depth at this level? That said, Henry's only 18, still has much to learn & has what could prove to be a decent career in front of him.

Jan · Hall of fame

Stircrazy wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
QR1: (q7) Rinky Hijikata (AUS) WR 80 defeated (qWC) Henry Searle WR 630 by 4 & 3
QR1: (q5) Mackenzie McDonald (USA) WR 74 defeated (qWC) Paul Jubb WR 298 by 2 & 1
The boys out of their depth at this level? That said, Henry's only 18, still has much to learn & has what could prove to be a decent career in front of him.

I think you're right. I saw both matches and although there were some competitive points, the ranking differences were clear, in my non-expert opinion!

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

I saw Henry's match

It was a head thing

He was 4-2 up, going well, had the break, wind in his sails, so to speak

And then he played a truly awful game to get broken back

Which shouldn't have mattered too much - but it really got to him - he sort of went to pieces after that - lost all his pep - and the result was a foregone conclusion

I didn't see Paul because I didn't think it'd be much of a match

Kokkinakis against Nardi was an absolute thriller

The Rinderknech match was high quality too

And to see a few of the service bombs that Mpetshi Perricard let fly was quite a sight

Jan Choinski was also holding his own quite well, although my guess is he won't win when they resume

Andy Murray was there, on the practice courts, with lots of people watching
I only asaw from afar, so nothing of any real note

Var · Pro player

Coup Droit wrote:
I saw Henry's match

It was a head thing

He was 4-2 up, going well, had the break, wind in his sails, so to speak

And then he played a truly awful game to get broken back

Which shouldn't have mattered too much - but it really got to him - he sort of went to pieces after that - lost all his pep - and the result was a foregone conclusion

I didn't see Paul because I didn't think it'd be much of a match

Kokkinakis against Nardi was an absolute thriller

The Rinderknech match was high quality too

And to see a few of the service bombs that Mpetshi Perricard let fly was quite a sight

Jan Choinski was also holding his own quite well, although my guess is he won't win when they resume

Andy Murray was there, on the practice courts, with lots of people watching
I only asaw from afar, so nothing of any real note

I wondered if He Henry might have had more joy in Ilkley.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Yes, Var, fair point

I mean, I don't know Henry, but Queens is a pretty swanky place, still rather 'up itself', to be honest. To me, he did look rather tight and stressed. Even his supporters didn't seem at ease.

I'm guessing that a boy who's only just turned 18 could well feel a little overawed by it all - he certainly seemed to be (and in a way that he almost certainly wouldn't have been at Ilkley)

But maybe that's the intention - to get the experience there, asap

9vicman · Satellite level

Coup Droit wrote:
Yes, Var, fair point

I mean, I don't know Henry, but Queens is a pretty swanky place, still rather 'up itself', to be honest. To me, he did look rather tight and stressed. Even his supporters didn't seem at ease.

I'm guessing that a boy who's only just turned 18 could well feel a little overawed by it all - he certainly seemed to be (and in a way that he almost certainly wouldn't have been at Ilkley)

But maybe that's the intention - to get the experience there, asap

I don't think any experience wasted at this stage. And he's off the back of three good wins in Nottingham and a close match against Dan. If he'd won against Hijikata, maybe a chance of a wild card into Wimbledon main draw. As it is, think qualies would be a sensible approach.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

9vicman wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Yes, Var, fair point

I mean, I don't know Henry, but Queens is a pretty swanky place, still rather 'up itself', to be honest. To me, he did look rather tight and stressed. Even his supporters didn't seem at ease.

I'm guessing that a boy who's only just turned 18 could well feel a little overawed by it all - he certainly seemed to be (and in a way that he almost certainly wouldn't have been at Ilkley)

But maybe that's the intention - to get the experience there, asap
I don't think any experience wasted at this stage. And he's off the back of three good wins in Nottingham and a close match against Dan. If he'd won against Hijikata, maybe a chance of a wild card into Wimbledon main draw. As it is, think qualies would be a sensible approach.

I'm still expecting a MD Wimbly WC

They've given a quali one to the U18 champion. Which is fine. But Henry is a step ahead - he's the Junior Wimbly winner from last year, and no longer playing juniors (despite being able to do so)

We'll see but I think he's going MD smile

indiana · Tennis legend

Sorry CD, I just don't think you satisfy the criteria for a Wimbledon MD WC.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Sorry CD, I just don't think you satisfy the criteria for a Wimbledon MD WC.

biggrin

Really? You haven't seen my famous overarm drop-shot serve; when Jeremy Bates sees it, and I say 'hi, Jez', I'm going to be a shoo-in, you watch ! biggrin

steven · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
I didn't see Paul because I didn't think it'd be much of a match

Jan Choinski was also holding his own quite well, although my guess is he won't win when they resume

The rain stopped faster than I thought it would - it was still wet in south London when I noticed they were already halfway through the 1st set and while I dashed to the station and it only took me 40 minutes to get there, Paul was already on court by the time I arrived.

It wasn't much of a match, as you had guessed - McDonald just had too much power and guile on grass for Paul, even though the latter did play some nice shots at times.

Jan was holding his own well (sadly, most of the cheers were for the Belgian, who seemed to have a fair bit of support there) but like CD, I wouldn't be surprised if Bergs ends up winning, though I'd love us to be proved wrong and hope Jan will at least nick a set. Jan has a good serve, an enormous wingspan, and is quite a fighter but his accuracy lets him down a bit too often.

Jan's match started under cloud and quite cool but towards the end of the 1st set, the sun came out and it was getting quite hot, then it clouded over again and they had just changed ends in the tiebreak when a few drops of rain started falling. They seemed to wonder whether to carry on but it quickly became obvious they couldn't and it was pouring by the time I made it to the shelter of the food tent. When the rain finally stopped and it the sky brightened up, most people seemed to have already left (apart from a few still watching the Football on the TV in the food tent!) but they removed the covers and got the mops so I thought it would be worth sticking around.

However, after some officials had felt the ground, they decided to call it a day. I imagine the reasoning was that while the sky was bright again, it was getting quite cool, so there was little to no prospect of the court drying out enough to be safe to play on - it was probably quite damp even after having been covered. A pity, but better safe than sorry.

Queen's looks very different to when I was last there a few years ago - impressive in a way but sad that the main courts are quite so closed off.