The umpire is acting childlishly too

Having umpired some top-200 player matches (well, only two , but a quite a few top-500 ones), she shouldn't be arguing the toss with Harriet, and talking to her like a naughty schoolgirl, or like her mother

You're taught to rise above it, let the player vent (assuming they're not going too far), not to get caught in nit-picking nonsense of going all over it again

It's daft that she's trying to tell Harriet the paint they use has changed

This is not the time or the place

Just pay attention and do your job properly

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PaulM wrote:

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Yeah the umpire has been pretty poor throughout this and Harriet probably, with some justification, feels she's had the rougher end of several bad decisions.

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You don't get to talk to people like they're subhuman when you disagree with them. None of the rest of us do in our jobs. I'm afraid it's upper-middle-class entitlement writ large. 

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 And the umpire doesn't get to talk to people she disagress with like they're naughty 5 year-olds either 

(I agree that it's difficult to 'warm' to Harriet, and she does have a rather cold, spiky aura, but the umpire is well out of order here, IMO) 

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emmsie69 wrote:

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jb288 wrote:

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PaulM wrote:

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Yeah the umpire has been pretty poor throughout this and Harriet probably, with some justification, feels she's had the rougher end of several bad decisions.

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You don't get to talk to people like they're subhuman when you disagree with them. None of the rest of us do in our jobs. I'm afraid it's upper-middle-class entitlement writ large. 

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 Because absolutely no working class sportsperson ever talks to referees as though they are subhuman. 

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Yes, I am saying that Harriet's own brand of behaviour seems to be derived from entitlement. Other brands are available, with different derivations. 

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 Particularly nasty to be rude to people who cannot answer back.  She was clearly not brought up to have good manners.  Nothing to do with class and entitlement, just bad parenting.

-- Edited by KK on Monday 10th of June 2024 04:51:01 PM

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jb288 wrote:

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emmsie69 wrote:

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jb288 wrote:

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PaulM wrote:

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Yeah the umpire has been pretty poor throughout this and Harriet probably, with some justification, feels she's had the rougher end of several bad decisions.

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You don't get to talk to people like they're subhuman when you disagree with them. None of the rest of us do in our jobs. I'm afraid it's upper-middle-class entitlement writ large. 

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 Because absolutely no working class sportsperson ever talks to referees as though they are subhuman. 

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Yes, I am saying that Harriet's own brand of behaviour seems to be derived from entitlement. Other brands are available, with different derivations. 

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 Particularly nasty to be rude to people who cannot answer back.  She was clearly not brought up to have good manners.  Nothing to do with class and entitlement, just bad parenting.

-- Edited by KK on Monday 10th of June 2024 04:51:01 PM

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 Of Harriet? Or of the umpire? Or both? 

That's the problem - the umpire HAS been answering back - quite inappropriately too

I'm not defending Harriet completely - she does have a difficult manner - as mentioned above

But the umpire has not been doing her job properly - and she should 

Katie looking fairly safe now.

My last comment on this is that it's possible for a player to be acting like a brat and for the umpire to be wrong and/or handling a situation badly. I think that's what's happened here.

Have to hope if Harriet at least can keep the high level she has shown at many points today the wins will come eventually.

It is odd to me she doesn't have a coach in her corner, just her boyfriend (who is not a hitting partner or coach). Who is she working with just now normally?

-- Edited by PaulM on Monday 10th of June 2024 05:15:02 PM

Well Katie doing her best to throw this away.