Wimbledon wildcards

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

RE: Wimbledon wildcards

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Madadman wrote:
www.lta.org.uk/49a242/siteassets/pro-players/wimbledon-wc-recommendations-policy-2024.pdf
LTA guidance on Wimbledon WCs. Says no ranking threshold and that the LTA will give AELTC up to 8 recommendations across both main and qualifying draws.

Thanks Madadman - thats a new policy document, and in essence, leaves them free to recommend how they want! The 8 limit is interesting, given there are 17 in main and qualies in total, so do Wimbledon themselves have freedom on the other 9 or so?!

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

THey got rid of the ranking threshold quite a few years ago - before covid, I think

And, given the LTA don't know the difference between 'formerly' and 'formally', I'm not 100% sure they mean 8 players across MD and Qualis

I agree, the correct way to read it is 'one list, of 8 players in total, for either MD or qualis'

"The LTA Panel will normally recommend to the AELTC a list of up to 8 players to be considered for either a Main Draw or Qualifying place."

But actually you could see that some person with LTA English deficiency could actually mean a list of 8 players to be considered for MD and a list of 8 players for qualis

It's possible to read it that way, if you know the context and that the LTA can't write

twentytoone · Intermediate Club Player

Coup Droit wrote:
twentytoone wrote:
Wouldnt give jan one as hes not actually a British player having played for and grown up in Germany, he is also 28 and I think we should be encouraging younger players who have come through the system rather than someone who just switched to represent us to take the mick off the support we offer, may be a controversial opinion but its what I believe
Andy Murray didn't come through the British system either - he went to Spain for his formative tennis years. So I guess we shouldn't choose him for our Olympic squad.
I presume you think no help should be given to Fran Jones on the same lines?
And obviously Norrie has nothing to do with the GB system either (he quite openly came purely for the support the LTA would offer) so I assume he'd better not hope for any help anywhere along the line?
Or Naiktha,who hops around nationalities like a grasshopper
Sorry but I think this is daft
If a player has actively committed to our country (rather than actively ran away from it, like all the kids going to Spain and Florida) then they're the ones who maybe should get MORE support
Personally, I think you give them on merit, and age/potential has some bearing but not a lot

I made a mistake when saying through the british system so I do apologise for that.

twentytoone · Intermediate Club Player

My post was more in reference to players changing nationalities to Britain at adult ages to gain help from the lta which then takes away from other players, but may not have worded my post in the best way

indiana · Tennis legend

The 8 players ( and they do mean total recommended British WCs across MD and Q ) has been around for quite a few years.

It is of course just the recommendation for the first batch of WCs announced and will get topped up by at least a couple from the Q WC play-offs. Also they do say "normally" and there has been at least one year recently when they have gone above the 8 even with the initial announcement.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

twentytoone wrote:
My post was more in reference to players changing nationalities to Britain at adult ages to gain help from the lta which then takes away from other players, but may not have worded my post in the best way

Yes, I understand

But it still applies to Cam Norrie, and Naiktha, to name just two

And it only takes away from other British players, net net, if it doesn't happen in the other direction

Which is not so

As Emily Lindh G changed from British to Norwegian as an adult

And Rhett Purcell changed as an adult to New Zealand

Also many federations actively recruit other nationalities (the French are certainly doing so pretty intensively at the moment in the women)

It's hard to say that you shouldn't give benefits to the new arrivals if the federation has been the actual ones tempting them over, dangling the carrot

To me, again, if they've changed, and they bring something over and above what the local grown players bring - which they do - Cam was number one, no one can bring more than that, surely - then they deserve their wildcards (or whatever). They will help lift the level in GB, help promote the sport, because they've got more chance of winning and are playing at higher level (i.e. Cam)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Wild card play-off details.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Oscariyan suggested on an earlier page that Oliver Bonding might be awarded a qWC. His school, King's College, Wimbledon, seems to think he'll have a main draw wild card.

seagull · Hall of fame

Hmm not sure they really know what they are talking about

simon381 · Lower Club Player

It is what their site says but I find that hard to believe. U18 champion clearly says entry into the qualifiers for Wimbledon. Of course it is possible but would make congestion for main draw WCs even worse as there are a lot of potential candidates. More likely a misunderstanding of the distinction by the school I would say??

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

simon381 wrote:
It is what their site says but I find that hard to believe. U18 champion clearly says entry into the qualifiers for Wimbledon. Of course it is possible but would make congestion for main draw WCs even worse as there are a lot of potential candidates. More likely a misunderstanding of the distinction by the school I would say??

Definitely - noting it was written in April, it was clearly mis written by the school!

twentytoone · Intermediate Club Player

U18 champion is awarded a qualifying wildcard

Lambda · Challenger qualifying

They have probably taken it from the appallingly written LTA news article.

"a wild card into the main draw at Wimbledon qualifying" disbelief

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Yes, it's nonsense (it's 'earned' him a quali wildcard - he can obviously still be given a MD wildcard - extremely unlikely but theoretcially possible)

But somewhat strange that Bonding hasn't got them to change it - that page is dated 30th April and he's obviously seen it