Week 17 - WTA1000 - Madrid, Spain Clay

Mervatron2 · Futures level

Week 17 - WTA1000 - Madrid, Spain Clay

9vicman · Strong Club Player

That's a pair of very gritty performances. Harriet doesn't have a natural game for clay so needs to grind out wins. She got really upset when accused of touching the net in the third set but managed to hold it together.

the addict · Tennis legend

Doubles draw is out
(with doubles rankings/singles rankings as you will see !)

R1/L32:- Anhelina Kalinina (UKR) / Dayana Yastremska (UKR) CR438 (120/32 + 318/34) v Heather Watson (GBR) / Yifan Xu (CHN) CR91 (50/144 + 41/UNR)

R1/L32:- Katie Boulter (GBR) / Marketa Vondrousova (CZE) CR1217 (1151/28 + 66/7) v Eri Hozumi (JPN) / Makoto Ninomiya (JPN) CR92 (45/870+47/UNR)

LordBrownof · Futures level

I *believe* this is Harriet's first ever top 100 win on clay.

9vicman · Strong Club Player

LordBrownof wrote:
I *believe* this is Harriet's first ever top 100 win on clay.

That's a good spot. Caty McNally (WR110) was her career best win on clay previously.

Blue_Belle · Strong Club Player

Rare to see Boults in a doubles draw

SuperT · Futures qualifying

With OpenEraRankings not being updated this week I am struggling to work out Harriet's ranking points. How many mandatory scores does she have to retain before she's allowed drop any? She currently has 4 slams and 4 Masters events which with the exception of Madrid are her lowest counters. Any help in understanding how this works would be much appreciated. Thank you

Peter too · Tennis legend

Q2: DART, Harriet (GBR) (11) 88 (CH=84 2022) def TIMOFEEVA, Maria (17) 99 (CH=93 2024) 4-6 6-3 7-5
They met in Murska Sabota in 2023 with Mursaka winning in three

R1: RADUCANU, Emma (GBR) 221 (CH=10 2022) v CARL, Maria Lourdes (ARG) 82 =CH
R1: DART, Harriet (GBR) (11) 88 (CH=84 2022) v BUCSA, Cristina (ESP) 75 (CH=56 2024)
They have played twice before with Harriet winning in three 2019 and Cristina in three in 2022
R1: BOULTER, Katie (GBR) (26) 28 (CH=27 2024) v Bye

the addict · Tennis legend

SuperT wrote:
With OpenEraRankings not being updated this week I am struggling to work out Harriet's ranking points. How many mandatory scores does she have to retain before she's allowed drop any? She currently has 4 slams and 4 Masters events which with the exception of Madrid are her lowest counters. Any help in understanding how this works would be much appreciated. Thank you

From Coric "According to latest official rankings of WTA, main draw results of 4 Grand Slams and Indian Wells/Miami/Madrid should count, and best 1 result of Rome/Rogers Cup/Cincinnati/Guadalajara/Doha/Dubai should count even if loss in qualification rounds"

Both Coric and live.eu show Harriet at a new CH of 82 after today's win and on 819 points.

Peter too · Tennis legend

Emma is playing 2nd on Arantxa Sanchez tomorrow, play on that court is scheduled to start at 10.00. If that is Madrid time it suggests Emma's match should start around 10.30 UK time. Harriet is 3rd on Stadium 3. Harriet's match should start around midday.

-- Edited by Peter too on Tuesday 23rd of April 2024 07:19:59 PM

wolf · Tennis legend

Peter too wrote:
Emma is playing 2nd on Arantxa Sanchez tomorrow, play on that court is scheduled to start at 10.00. If that is Madrid time it suggests Emma's match should start around 10.30 UK time. Harriet is 3rd on Stadium 3. Harriet's match should start around midday.

-- Edited by Peter too on Tuesday 23rd of April 2024 07:19:59 PM

Emma is 3rd on after 10am UK. If your looking at the WTA website it does not show the mens match which is first on and defaults to your local time already.

GAMEOVER · Pro player

the addict wrote:
Doubles draw is out
(with doubles rankings/singles rankings as you will see !)

R1/L32:- Anhelina Kalinina (UKR) / Dayana Yastremska (UKR) CR438 (120/32 + 318/34) v Heather Watson (GBR) / Yifan Xu (CHN) CR91 (50/144 + 41/UNR)

R1/L32:- Katie Boulter (GBR) / Marketa Vondrousova (CZE) CR1217 (1151/28 + 66/7) v Eri Hozumi (JPN) / Makoto Ninomiya (JPN) CR92 (45/870+47/UNR)

Vondrousova is having off courts problems at the moment as she is getting divorced.

DF · Tennis legend

Peter too wrote:
Emma is playing 2nd on Arantxa Sanchez tomorrow, play on that court is scheduled to start at 10.00. If that is Madrid time it suggests Emma's match should start around 10.30 UK time. Harriet is 3rd on Stadium 3. Harriet's match should start around midday.

Emma' is the second WTA match on the court but there is an ATP match on first so your times need to be adjusted a little. smile

PaulM · Tennis legend

I mean I struggle to see a win but Busca is not a bad draw at this level. Go for it Harriet.

Xu has had her struggles but nice to see Heather here and with a solid established specialist.

-- Edited by PaulM on Tuesday 23rd of April 2024 08:11:50 PM

Lambda · Futures level

the addict wrote:

SuperT wrote:
With OpenEraRankings not being updated this week I am struggling to work out Harriet's ranking points. How many mandatory scores does she have to retain before she's allowed drop any? She currently has 4 slams and 4 Masters events which with the exception of Madrid are her lowest counters. Any help in understanding how this works would be much appreciated. Thank you
From Coric "According to latest official rankings of WTA, main draw results of 4 Grand Slams and Indian Wells/Miami/Madrid should count, and best 1 result of Rome/Rogers Cup/Cincinnati/Guadalajara/Doha/Dubai should count even if loss in qualification rounds"
Both Coric and live.eu show Harriet at a new CH of 82 after today's win and on 819 points.

Coric is slightly incorrect. Losses in qualifying are not a mandatory counter. They were for about 6 weeks for the 1 "other" mandatory, but that was changed back after Miami to not counting. Harriet's only mandatory counter on Monday was Wimbledon. She will now be required to count Madrid. It should be noted we are in a transition period for mandatory counters and as tournaments are played this year mandatory counters will change [I'm assuming given what are currently counting as mandatory counters doesn't reflect what the rulebook says should count].

Mandatory counters from 2023 events are as described above (except qualifying isn't mandatory).
Mandatory counters from 2024 events are 4 Grand Slams, 6 combined/virtual combined 1000s (I'm assuming they are IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome, Canada, Cincy, Beijing), 1 "WTA only" 1000 (Doha, Dubai, Wuhan)