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2024 Olympic Games: doping & other issues


I give up!  Apparently, the IOC threatened us with the loss of the right to host qualifying events for new Olympic sports unless we gave in.  As Matthew Syed puts it in the article, "That's right: for the sake of hosting a breakdancing event in Stratford"!!!  Break-dancing???  Who the hell decided that that was a sport?  Despite our relative success since 2012, I'm not even convinced that tennis & golf deserve to be included.  disbelief  Pathetic!  furious

P.S.  If anyone without access to the ToL site feels strongly enough to want to see any of the other articles mentioned in it, let me know & I'll send you an archive link.



-- Edited by Stircrazy on Friday 26th of July 2024 11:19:11 AM

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2024 Olympic Games: UK gvt again demonstrates lack of backbone by caving in on opposition to RUS/BLR participation


Archive now want to charge, so even the free articles arent free!

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Archive now want to charge, so even the free articles arent free!


Sorry.  Wasn't aware of that.  cry  Not a problem for me, as I have access to ToL, but what a pain for others who don't.  furious



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Stircrazy wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

Archive now want to charge, so even the free articles arent free!


Sorry.  Wasn't aware of that.  cry  Not a problem for me, as I have access to ToL, but what a pain for others who don't.  furious


 No worries - you can register for a month free on archive but then they will start charging, at least that is what it told me. 



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Is this the British backbone we're so proud of?

Not even getting involved with if the original decision is right or wrong

 

Ps and, absolutely,  golf, tennis, soccer, baseball etc - NONE of those should be Olympic sports 



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Thursday 18th of April 2024 05:32:12 AM

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JonH comes home wrote:

Stircrazy wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

Archive now want to charge, so even the free articles arent free!


Sorry.  Wasn't aware of that.  cry  Not a problem for me, as I have access to ToL, but what a pain for others who don't.  furious


 No worries - you can register for a month free on archive but then they will start charging, at least that is what it told me. 




I see nothing about charges for archive or anywhere to register. What I did notice the other day was that it no longer gets around the paywall. I wonder if what you've taken as archive charging is that it's archived a page as seen by a non subscriber and so includes the subscription offer for the Times?

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JonH comes home wrote:

 

Stircrazy wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

Archive now want to charge, so even the free articles arent free!


Sorry.  Wasn't aware of that.  cry  Not a problem for me, as I have access to ToL, but what a pain for others who don't.  furious


 No worries - you can register for a month free on archive but then they will start charging, at least that is what it told me. 



 


I see nothing about charges for archive or anywhere to register. What I did notice the other day was that it no longer gets around the paywall. I wonder if what you've taken as archive charging is that it's archived a page as seen by a non subscriber and so includes the subscription offer for the Times?


 ah, that actually makes sense and on closer look that is exactly what it has done, it is the subscription for the Times and not Archive itself. Good spot, and good news. However, the article is sadly not visible as it shows the first paragraph and then kicks into fading away and mentioning subsribing (to the Times!)  



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RE: 2024 Olympic Games: doping & other issues


I decided to give my old thread a new title after reading this article in today's Times.  The issue, in a nutshell, is set out in the second paragraph:

Central to the controversy is the decision by the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) not to challenge a Chinese ruling that cleared 23 of their swimmers after they had tested positive for the banned heart medication Trimetazidine in January 2021.

A couple of readers' comments:

The second para is staggering. In summary: China to WADA....we are not guilty of doping. WADA to China...........thank you so much for letting us know the conclusion of your unbiased investigation, all sorted, splendid.

Followed by:

China to WADA: when we want your conclusions we will tell you what they are.

It was staggering when we first heard about it. Now it's just grotesque as they tie themselves into knots trying to make it all go away

"Wash, rinse, repeat ..." won't necessarily remove the worst stains.

This one made me smile - wryly:

And the gold medal for the best chemist goes to.....

Why is is that international governing bodies can always be relied upon NEVER to put the interests of the sport they supposedly exist to protect & the interests of the athletes that engage in it before those of their officials, who are generally busy lining their own pockets (think FIFA & UEFA...)? 


And to revert to the subject of my original post:

Listen to yesterday's episode of Ukraine; The Latest to hear about Russian and Belarusian athletes, who are definitely not neutral, being allowed to compete under a neutral flag. Clear proof that they support the war against Ukraine is being ignored.

Are the IOC under pressure from Russia and their friends without limits, China? If they're caving in to this and doping cheats what is the point of carrying on with international Olympics?


Completely off topic, good to see Times readers using all capital letters for WADA. 

 



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Now I've heard everything - except, of course, he didn't amputate himself, he had it amputated...!  Lazy journos, but, sadly, a common grammatical error.  disbelief



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Pity the poor Parisians:  the thoughts of Agnès Poirier on the legacy of the Games. 



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London wasn't fenced off like that in 2012, they do seem to have gone a bit crazy. As for the last bit of the article (being able to hold the open water swimming / triathlon in the Seine), the thing they were most worried about was run-off from heavy rain, so it could be more than just the opening ceremony that ends up suffering as a result of the weather.

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London wasn't fenced off like that in 2012, they do seem to have gone a bit crazy. As for the last bit of the article (being able to hold the open water swimming / triathlon in the Seine), the thing they were most worried about was run-off from heavy rain, so it could be more than just the opening ceremony that ends up suffering as a result of the weather.


I seem to recall that there were also/still are some concerns about E. coli in the water - so not just the Thames!

Off topic, I thought the opening ceremony was a bit of a curate's egg.  I had it on, but it didn't have my undivided attention:  there were some genuine highlights, especially towards the end, but there were also long stretches when it was actually pretty boring.



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Stircrazy wrote:
steven wrote:

London wasn't fenced off like that in 2012, they do seem to have gone a bit crazy. As for the last bit of the article (being able to hold the open water swimming / triathlon in the Seine), the thing they were most worried about was run-off from heavy rain, so it could be more than just the opening ceremony that ends up suffering as a result of the weather.


I seem to recall that there were also/still are some concerns about E. coli in the water - so not just the Thames!

Off topic, I thought the opening ceremony was a bit of a curate's egg.  I had it on, but it didn't have my undivided attention:  there were some genuine highlights, especially towards the end, but there were also long stretches when it was actually pretty boring.


 Yes, I'm with you SC

The ending was quite spectucular

The Eiffel tower, the hot air balloon thingy, and didn't Celine Dion absolutely nail her song, in true old-fashioned French style???? Brilliant Especially given what she's had to put up with recently. 

But, for me, the athletes being on boats didn't work - it lost the pomp and ceremony, of arriving in the stadium, and lost the 'togetherness' which is rather moving when you see all the athletes, filling up the stadium

It also meant noise was very dispersed - so there was hardly any clapping etc (that could be heard - all you could hear was rain) - so you didn't really get the emotion that comes with the noise of all the specatators in a stadium

It also seemed rather more of a Paris tourist advert than an Olympics ideal advert



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Ive only just clocked, the surfing is taking place in Tahiti!

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Stircrazy wrote:
steven wrote:

London wasn't fenced off like that in 2012, they do seem to have gone a bit crazy. As for the last bit of the article (being able to hold the open water swimming / triathlon in the Seine), the thing they were most worried about was run-off from heavy rain, so it could be more than just the opening ceremony that ends up suffering as a result of the weather.


I seem to recall that there were also/still are some concerns about E. coli in the water - so not just the Thames!

Off topic, I thought the opening ceremony was a bit of a curate's egg.  I had it on, but it didn't have my undivided attention:  there were some genuine highlights, especially towards the end, but there were also long stretches when it was actually pretty boring.


 Yes, I'm with you SC

The ending was quite spectucular

The Eiffel tower, the hot air balloon thingy, and didn't Celine Dion absolutely nail her song, in true old-fashioned French style???? Brilliant Especially given what she's had to put up with recently. 

But, for me, the athletes being on boats didn't work - it lost the pomp and ceremony, of arriving in the stadium, and lost the 'togetherness' which is rather moving when you see all the athletes, filling up the stadium

It also meant noise was very dispersed - so there was hardly any clapping etc (that could be heard - all you could hear was rain) - so you didn't really get the emotion that comes with the noise of all the specatators in a stadium

It also seemed rather more of a Paris tourist advert than an Olympics ideal advert


I read Israel and Iran would have been on the same boat if theyd kept to strict alphabetical order, so a little shifting around was needed!  



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