Week 16 - ITF W75 - Chiasso, Switzerland (outdoor clay)

Tanaqui · Intermediate Club Player

Week 16 - ITF W75 - Chiasso, Switzerland (outdoor clay)

wolf · Tennis legend

Final: Despina Papamichail & Simona Waltert (GRE/SUI) CR 760 (106+654) vs (2) Emily Appleton & Lena Papadakis (GER) CR 401 (137+264)

DF · Tennis legend

wolf wrote:
Final: Despina Papamichail & Simona Waltert (GRE/SUI) CR 760 (106+654) vs (2) Emily Appleton & Lena Papadakis (GER) CR 401 (137+264)

Emily and Lena win smile

the addict · Tennis legend

Final:- Emily Appleton & Lena Papadakis (GER) CR 401 (137+264) [2] def Despina Papamichail & Simona Waltert (GRE/SUI) CR 760 (106+654) 4-6 6-4 10-6

75 points replaces (I think) a 29 point counter and puts Emily at a provisional WR128 (up 9 places) according to Coric

indiana · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
Final:- Emily Appleton & Lena Papadakis (GER) CR 401 (137+264) [2] def Despina Papamichail & Simona Waltert (GRE/SUI) CR 760 (106+654) 4-6 6-4 10-6
75 points replaces (I think) a 29 point counter and puts Emily at a provisional WR128 (up 9 places) according to Coric

Yes, closing back in on her CH 125 from February. Emily's 18th ITF doubles title and 2nd W75 of the year, following one with Freya.

Tanaqui · Intermediate Club Player

Well done, Emily and Lena!

Lovely to see Emily on the rise again.

PockyTastic · Futures level

Well done Emily, defended the title she won last year with Julia Lohoff (I think!)

9vicman · Strong Club Player

Emily's family was pointing out that Emily will lose points from the same event due to the reduction in points across all events this year.

the addict · Tennis legend

9vicman wrote:
Emily's family was pointing out that Emily will lose points from the same event due to the reduction in points across all events this year.

Last year was a W60 with 80 points for the win, this year it's a W75 with 75 points for the win.

So yes, a whole 5 points. Oh dear what a pity. wink

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
9vicman wrote:
Emily's family was pointing out that Emily will lose points from the same event due to the reduction in points across all events this year.
Last year was a W60 with 80 points for the win, this year it's a W75 with 75 points for the win.
So yes, a whole 5 points. Oh dear what a pity.

Yes, it's hardly a scandal biggrin

And it's a big improvement - 75 points for a w75 win makes sense!

The juniors have done the same, it's good

PaulM · Tennis legend

And of course everyone else is losing points in the same way. The points system change actually makes a lot of sense because the gap between what was 15 and 25k was always weirdly large, and then that meant higher tier ITF levels ended up squeezed quite closely together and not really acting as a meaningful ladder, because the highest ITF had to still be awarding less points than the lowest WTA.

It takes a little time to shake itself out, and people will benefit slightly depending on when in 2023 they got their big points hauls. But in the end it is much of a muchness.

indiana · Tennis legend

Well done to Emily

I take it Emily's family's glasses are generally at least half empty!!!

And yes, the new points system is so so much better.

The points / prize money progression for ITFs was a mess and also the WTA rebranding WTA Internationals as WTA 250s etc while keeping the winning points at 280 etc rather than the logical but fairly minor change to 250 etc was just weird. Very kind of them to take a little time to finally sort things out.

-- Edited by indiana on Sunday 21st of April 2024 01:31:24 PM

9vicman · Strong Club Player

With reduced ranking points at all levels from WTA250 downwards, it's going to be interesting to see whether and how it affects progression in the rankings. While things are likely to sort themselves out at the lower levels, I think it might be more difficult to break into the game's elite. But I also think the WTA is trying to create an elite group of players who compete against each other on a more regular basis. But there needs to be room for movement.

The ATP have made similar changes to their rankings - including the increasing of points at Slams - so will be interesting to see where we stand at year's end.