Week 9 - ATP 500 - Dubai Duty Free Championships - Dubai, UAE (hard)

Rich2310 · County player

Week 9 - ATP 500 - Dubai Duty Free Championships - Dubai, UAE (hard)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Rich2310 wrote:
I think he will call it a day at Wimbledon on Centre Court scene of his biggest triumphs

That's been my feeling for a while (and one of the reasons I left Andy out of the end-of-year top-10 list)

Although there's always the Olympics...... that might change things a little

9vicman · Satellite level

Coup Droit wrote:
Rich2310 wrote:
I think he will call it a day at Wimbledon on Centre Court scene of his biggest triumphs
That's been my feeling for a while (and one of the reasons I left Andy out of the end-of-year top-10 list)
Although there's always the Olympics...... that might change things a little

He's all but guaranteed to qualify for the Olympics as an ITF Place recipient. There are two places for players with the most Olympic/Slam titles if not a direct acceptance, and Murray is second only to Nadal. He would need to be in the Top 400 (which he'll easily meet) and there not be 4 British direct acceptances ahead of him. So unless Liam Broady breaks into the Top 70. So his call.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

9vicman wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Rich2310 wrote:
I think he will call it a day at Wimbledon on Centre Court scene of his biggest triumphs
That's been my feeling for a while (and one of the reasons I left Andy out of the end-of-year top-10 list)
Although there's always the Olympics...... that might change things a little
He's all but guaranteed to qualify for the Olympics as an ITF Place recipient. There are two places for players with the most Olympic/Slam titles if not a direct acceptance, and Murray is second only to Nadal. He would need to be in the Top 400 (which he'll easily meet) and there not be 4 British direct acceptances ahead of him. So unless Liam Broady breaks into the Top 70. So his call.

Yep, he will want to play the Olympics and may also play one of the doubles events if eligible. Id feel hed play the US Open as well, home of his first slam title. maybe he wont bother with DC, but I dont think stopping at Wimbledon would work, he will want one final Olympics and US for sure

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Andy wins another match!
L32: Andy Murray WR 67 defeated (PR) Denis Shapovalov (CAN) WR 120 by 4-6 7-6(5) 6-3 in two hours & 32 minutes

L32: Andy Murray WR 67 vs (5) Ugo Humbert (FRA) WR 18 (= CH)

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
Andy wins another match!
L32: Andy Murray WR 67 defeated (PR) Denis Shapovalov (CAN) WR 120 by 4-6 7-6(5) 6-3 in two hours & 32 minutes
L32: Andy Murray WR 67 vs (5) Ugo Humbert (FRA) WR 18 (= CH)

Humbert could be a step up for Andy, but you never know. I think Dubai is playing fast (Hurkacz is there and playing loads of tie breaks, it MUST be fast!) and Humbert likes fast surfaces, but Andy may find he can stay in it and get the odd break, needs to hold of course. Serving well will be key for Andy and he hasnt been doing that much this season

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Dubai is in the top 10 fastest surfaces according to Tennis Abstract - 1.00 is "average" and Acapulco and IW show as slow courts, as we know. The speeds above Dubai are all events people would recognise as being renowned fast court events - some on grass, the tour finals have always been speedy in Turin, Shanghai of course and Washington and Basle.

Tournament ServeImpact
Stuttgart 1.29
NextGen Finals 1.20
Tour Finals 1.16
Wimbledon 1.11
Shanghai Masters 1.11
Halle 1.10
Queen's Club 1.08
Basel 1.08
Washington 1.08
Dubai 1.07

Tournament ServeImpact
Antwerp 1.05
Gstaad 1.05
Australian Open 1.04
Davis Cup Finals 1.04
Cincinnati Masters 1.04
Paris Masters 1.03
Vienna 1.03
Miami Masters 1.02
Madrid Masters 1.01
US Open 1.01

Tournament ServeImpact
Canada Masters 1.00
Rotterdam 0.96
Indian Wells Masters 0.95
Rome Masters 0.92
Acapulco 0.87
Barcelona 0.87
Roland Garros 0.83
Monte Carlo Masters 0.83

The analysis below shows how Humbert is one of those players who thrives on faster courts and suffers in slower conditions, relatively to their own level ie Humbert isnt the best fast court player but prefers faster courts based on his own performance compared to slower. As Jeff Sackmann summarises:

"But for some players, conditions matter a lot. Ugo Humbert likes his surfaces fast, as much as almost anyone else on tour. In Rotterdam, the conditions did not cooperate."

Player Sensitivity
Tallon Griekspoor 11.1
Ugo Humbert 9.5
Richard Gasquet 9.1
Novak Djokovic 8.7
Adrian Mannarino 7.9
Sebastian Korda 4.9
Jordan Thompson 4.3
Matteo Berrettini 4.0
Aslan Karatsev 3.6
Tommy Paul 3.4
Marcos Giron 2.9
Marton Fucsovics 2.9
Marin Cilic 2.6
Felix Auger-Aliassime 2.1
Hubert Hurkacz 1.7

Player Sensitivity
Frances Tiafoe 1.6
Carlos Alcaraz 1.4
Emil Ruusuvuori 1.3
Brandon Nakashima 1.3
Cristian Garin 0.6
Alexander Zverev 0.5
Alexander Bublik 0.5
Ilya Ivashka 0.0
Arthur Rinderknech -0.1
Taylor Fritz -0.3
Jan Lennard Struff -0.3
Lorenzo Sonego -0.4
Mackenzie Mcdonald -0.5
Andy Murray -0.9
Grigor Dimitrov -1.1

Player Sensitivity
Roberto Bautista Agut -1.2
Alex de Minaur -1.2
Karen Khachanov -1.4
Jannik Sinner -1.4
Yoshihito Nishioka -1.5
Miomir Kecmanovic -1.9
Andrey Rublev -2.2
Daniel Evans -2.2
Cameron Norrie -2.5
Holger Rune -2.9
Roberto Carballes Baena -3.0
Botic van de Zandschulp -3.1
Daniil Medvedev -3.4
Denis Shapovalov -3.5
Sebastian Baez -3.7

Player Sensitivity
Laslo Djere -4.1
Dusan Lajovic -4.1
Pablo Carreno Busta -4.4
Jaume Munar -4.6
Fabio Fognini -4.8
Nikoloz Basilashvili -4.9
Casper Ruud -5.0
Diego Schwartzman -5.4
Francisco Cerundolo -5.9
Alexei Popyrin -6.4
Albert Ramos -6.8
Rafael Nadal -9.9
Alejandro Davidovich Fokina -10.1
Stefanos Tsitsipas -10.2
Lorenzo Musetti -11.2

www.tennisabstract.com/blog/2024/02/16/surface-sensitivity-and-ugo-humberts-serve/

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Tuesday 27th of February 2024 12:41:25 PM

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
L16: Lloyd Glasspool & Jean-Julien Rojer (NED) CR 50 (30+20) defeated (WC) Michael Agwi & Osgar O'Hoisin (IRL/IRL) CR 2365 (1778+587) by 6-0 7-6(5)

QF: Lloyd Glasspool & Jean-Julien Rojer (NED) CR 50 (30+20) vs (2) Ivan Dodig & Austin Krajicek (CRO/USA) CR 10 (7+3)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
QF: Lloyd Glasspool & Jean-Julien Rojer (NED) CR 50 (30+20) vs (2) Ivan Dodig & Austin Krajicek (CRO/USA) CR 10 (7+3)

L16: (3) Jamie Murray & Michael Venus (NZL) CR 33 (16+17) defeated Sander Gillé & Joran Vliegen (BEL/BEL) CR 52 (26+26) by 6-3 6-7(2) [10-7]

*****

QF: (Q) Yuki Bhambri & Robin Haase (IND/NED) CR 102 (63+39) vs (3) Jamie Murray & Michael Venus (NZL) CR 33 (16+17)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Rich2310 wrote:
I think he will call it a day at Wimbledon on Centre Court scene of his biggest triumphs
That's been my feeling for a while (and one of the reasons I left Andy out of the end-of-year top-10 list)
Although there's always the Olympics...... that might change things a little

His wish to play at the Paris Olympics apparently confirmed by this story on the Beeb's site.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

QF: (2) Ivan Dodig & Austin Krajicek (CRO/USA) CR 10 (7+3) defeated Lloyd Glasspool & Jean-Julien Rojer (NED) CR 50 (30+20) by 6-7(5) 6-3 [10-5]

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L32: (5) Ugo Humbert (FRA) WR 18 defeated Andy Murray WR 67 by 2 & 4

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Losing to Humbert was always likely, Humbert as per above likes faster courts and is in form. I reckon top 10 for Humbert by end of the season

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
QF: (2) Ivan Dodig & Austin Krajicek (CRO/USA) CR 10 (7+3) defeated Lloyd Glasspool & Jean-Julien Rojer (NED) CR 50 (30+20) by 6-7(5) 6-3 [10-5]

Tight - decent effort.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Rich2310 wrote:
I think he will call it a day at Wimbledon on Centre Court scene of his biggest triumphs
That's been my feeling for a while (and one of the reasons I left Andy out of the end-of-year top-10 list)
Although there's always the Olympics...... that might change things a little
His wish to play at the Paris Olympics apparently confirmed by this story on the Beeb's site.

Good - as per my comments above, I think US Open will be it; it is a long time to be retired and why not see through the end of the slam season and where he won his first slam title