Week 9 - ATP 500 - Abierto Mexicano Telcel - Acapulco, Mexico (hard)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Week 9 - ATP 500 - Abierto Mexicano Telcel - Acapulco, Mexico (hard)

Jeff Stelling · Club Coach

I would have thought these two had played each other enough recently!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Jeff Stelling wrote:
I would have thought these two had played each other enough recently!

You could say its good to have a constant in your life; lestienne is more,

on the other hand.

actually, theyve not played since September and 4 times in total over their careers, not sure it is that often theyve been together recently?

wolf · Tennis legend

QR1: (q1) Daniel Evans & Henry Patten CR 234 (166+68) vs Flavio Cobolli & Aleksandar Kovacevic (ITA/USA) CR 1057 (560+497)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L32: Jack Draper WR 53 (CH = 38 in January last year) vs (7) Tommy Paul (USA) WR 14 (CH = 12 last October)

L32: Daniel Evans WR 42 (CH = 21 last August) vs Ben Shelton (USA) WR 16 (CH = 15 last October)

L32: Cameron Norrie WR 23 (CH = 8 in September 2022) vs Dominik Köpfer (GER) WR 57 (CH = 50 in May 2021)

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Tough draws all round id say. Jack could beat Paul though, Cam probably starts favourite against Koepfer , but that will be a long, 3 hour match ! Evo versus Shelton is interesting - Evo could win that as well.

Could win 3, could win zilch. Probably get 1!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Doubles draw out, Neal and Santiago top seeds, Julian and Robert play the Tsitsipas Bros. Joe is with Rinky Hikikata this week, Rajeev seems to be missing in action. Theyre due to play at IW though , I believe.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L16: (1) Santiago González (MEX) & Neal Skupski CR 17 (9+8) vs Willam Blumberg & Casper Ruud (USA/NOR) CR 660 (87+573)

L16: (WC ) Petros Tsitsipas & Stefanos Tsitsipas (GRE/GRE) CR 210 (86+124) vs Julian Cash & Robert Galloway (USA) CR 90 (47+43)
L16: Harri Heliövaara & John Peers (FIN/AUS) CR 75 (33+42) vs (3) Rinky Hijikata (AUS) & Joe Salisbury CR 61 (56+5)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

QR1: (q8) Constant Lestienne (FRA) WR 104 defeated Liam Broady WR 123 by 4 & 4 cry

wolf · Tennis legend

QR1: (q1) Daniel Evans & Henry Patten CR 234 (166+68) defeated (ALT) Emiliano Aguilera & Manuel Sánchez (MEX/MEX) UNR (UNR+1753) by 6-3 6-1

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FQR: (q1) Daniel Evans & Henry Patten CR 234 (166+68) vs (q2/qWC) Hans Hach Verdugo & Luis David Martínez (MEX/VEN) CR 311 (215+96)

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
QR1: (q8) Constant Lestienne (FRA) WR 104 defeated Liam Broady WR 123 by 4 & 4

Dang; fear Liam slipping down the rankings again. Has he lost some of his motivation? Hope not. Felt like cracking the top 100 was a thing and hes not been able with injuries or form to maintain the level

Blue_Belle · Club Coach

Cam has withdrawn.

Nix · Futures level

JonH comes home wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
QR1: (q8) Constant Lestienne (FRA) WR 104 defeated Liam Broady WR 123 by 4 & 4
Dang; fear Liam slipping down the rankings again. Has he lost some of his motivation? Hope not. Felt like cracking the top 100 was a thing and hes not been able with injuries or form to maintain the level

Not aimed at you particularly Jon but Ive noticed this message board seems to be quite quick to question players if theyve had a couple of losses and look at whether theyre going to retire, lost their mojo, will never make/maintain the level etc, etc. Katie B, Jodie, Hev, Emma and now Liam all recently. It seems normal to me that it takes a while to get back to the level after injury because of reaching peak fitness, being match fit, adjusting back to the mental side of playing and travelling. It seems very early in his come back to question his motivation.

Katie B took a while to get back to her best after injury and has now reached a big career high. Jack D isnt quite at the level he was before recent injuries but I think he will do. Paul Jubb hasnt got completely back into his groove yet but hes climbing back up. I guess its something to talk about but it seems a bit negative but maybe thats just me!

wolf · Tennis legend

FQR: (q1) Daniel Evans & Henry Patten CR 234 (166+68) defeated (q2/qWC) Hans Hach Verdugo & Luis David Martínez (MEX/VEN) CR 311 (215+96) by 6-4 6-7(6) [10-8]

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L16: (Q) Daniel Evans & Henry Patten CR 268 (201+67) vs Romain Arneodo & Sam Weissborn (MON/AUT) CR 112 (57+55)

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Nix wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
QR1: (q8) Constant Lestienne (FRA) WR 104 defeated Liam Broady WR 123 by 4 & 4
Dang; fear Liam slipping down the rankings again. Has he lost some of his motivation? Hope not. Felt like cracking the top 100 was a thing and hes not been able with injuries or form to maintain the level
Not aimed at you particularly Jon but Ive noticed this message board seems to be quite quick to question players if theyve had a couple of losses and look at whether theyre going to retire, lost their mojo, will never make/maintain the level etc, etc. Katie B, Jodie, Hev, Emma and now Liam all recently. It seems normal to me that it takes a while to get back to the level after injury because of reaching peak fitness, being match fit, adjusting back to the mental side of playing and travelling. It seems very early in his come back to question his motivation.

Katie B took a while to get back to her best after injury and has now reached a big career high. Jack D isnt quite at the level he was before recent injuries but I think he will do. Paul Jubb hasnt got completely back into his groove yet but hes climbing back up. I guess its something to talk about but it seems a bit negative but maybe thats just me!

Maybe, and I probably am quick to react, so apologies - guilty as charged. With Liam, though, it feels like he has been off his best for a little while now, injuries clearly play a part in that.

Re the others, certainly I did have a go at Jodie and maybe questioned Paul's likely top level (although I agree he is getting back up there and I really hope he does it). Jack D I am cool with - he will break top 20 this season, IMO.

The other women, I dont really have a view on - Katie B doing well for me, Heather is Heather and doing well right now, Emma - my jury will remain out as I really dont know what to make of her generally, other than she needs to change her scheduling, as discussed!!

But your point is certainly fair, overall,and I can be guilty of that!