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Considering who they vote for Americans don't do themselves any favours if it comes to a contest between who's right and who's wrong. I'm very much on SC's side here, I have an American girlfriend and she's happy to accommodate my whims that she avoid Americanisms in our conversations. 



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Brendan F wrote:

Considering who they vote for Americans don't do themselves any favours if it comes to a contest between who's right and who's wrong. I'm very much on SC's side here, I have an American girlfriend and she's happy to accommodate my whims that she avoid Americanisms in our conversations. 


Lordy, you've got a bit of a controlling thing going on there, Brendan biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

More seriously, I understand there might be specific terms/phrases you don't like but to ask an American not to use ANY American phrases/words/whatever? I mean, that's how they've been brought up, it's their cultural background, it would mean they'd be overthinking what they're going to say each time before they opened their mouth

If they say 'undershirt' instead of 'vest' (my latest 3-second confusion with an American friend re clothes buying), does it really matter? Obviously, if they're in the UK, it can cause confusion (hence above) but there's nothing wrong with it per se (I think my grandma used to call it an undervest, anyway, and we've sort of dropped the under bit) 

There are specific US terms that we've stolen - like 'playdate', 'no way', OK, 'boss', etc etc etc - do you veto those too? smile  

Mind you, there are a few specific ones that I'd put a stop to too smile



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Coup Droit wrote:
Brendan F wrote:

Considering who they vote for Americans don't do themselves any favours if it comes to a contest between who's right and who's wrong. I'm very much on SC's side here, I have an American girlfriend and she's happy to accommodate my whims that she avoid Americanisms in our conversations. 


Lordy, you've got a bit of a controlling thing going on there, Brendan biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

More seriously, I understand there might be specific terms/phrases you don't like but to ask an American not to use ANY American phrases/words/whatever? I mean, that's how they've been brought up, it's their cultural background, it would mean they'd be overthinking what they're going to say each time before they opened their mouth

If they say 'undershirt' instead of 'vest' (my latest 3-second confusion with an American friend re clothes buying), does it really matter? Obviously, if they're in the UK, it can cause confusion (hence above) but there's nothing wrong with it per se (I think my grandma used to call it an undervest, anyway, and we've sort of dropped the under bit) 

There are specific US terms that we've stolen - like 'playdate', 'no way', OK, 'boss', etc etc etc - do you veto those too? smile  

Mind you, there are a few specific ones that I'd put a stop to too smile


 As a teacher, she's happy to see it as an academic exercise. It works both ways because if I'm using proper English, ie the way English people speak, while she's speaking American then it's like we're having separate conversations so it makes sense to both of us to just stick to one. It's actually quite rare that any such words come up in the course of our conversations anyway. Mostly the dreaded f word instead of the lovely autumn.



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If your biggest relationship problem is her sometimes using fall instead of autumn, you've got a great relationship

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The Americanisms that I have grown to dislike intensely are those that have grown up around the recent authoritarian politics, things like "woke".

Every time I see traditional print and broadcast media referred to as "main-stream media" or "MSM" it raises my hackles a little, because of the underlying implication that somehow they are to be distrusted. (qv "Lame Stream Media")

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