2024 ITF Wheelchair Tour

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RE: 2024 ITF Wheelchair Tour

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Presumably if the paralympics doesnt have ranking points and there are no more slams or series 1 events, Alfie is almost certain to end the season number 1? Presumably there is just the Masters that could impact that?

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JonH comes home wrote:
Presumably if the paralympics doesnt have ranking points and there are no more slams or series 1 events, Alfie is almost certain to end the season number 1? Presumably there is just the Masters that could impact that?

Alfie would lose 800 points at the masters but his next counter is 375. So net 425.

oda would lose 375 and his replacement would be 235, so hed lose 140 net.

but alfie is 477 points ahead currently , so would enter the masters a live 200 points ahead effectively. Not sure how points breakdown exactly for the masters, but it feels like alfie would need to avoid an early loss at the masters and hed end year end 1.

9vicman · Satellite level

JonH comes home wrote:
Presumably if the paralympics doesnt have ranking points and there are no more slams or series 1 events, Alfie is almost certain to end the season number 1? Presumably there is just the Masters that could impact that?

The Paralympics has ranking points at Super Series level. Which isn't very generous.

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9vicman wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Presumably if the paralympics doesnt have ranking points and there are no more slams or series 1 events, Alfie is almost certain to end the season number 1? Presumably there is just the Masters that could impact that?
The Paralympics has ranking points at Super Series level. Which isn't very generous.

Ok, thats cool. I hadnt realised that. Out of interest is that in an article somewhere?

9vicman · Satellite level

JonH comes home wrote:
9vicman wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Presumably if the paralympics doesnt have ranking points and there are no more slams or series 1 events, Alfie is almost certain to end the season number 1? Presumably there is just the Masters that could impact that?
The Paralympics has ranking points at Super Series level. Which isn't very generous.
Ok, thats cool. I hadnt realised that. Out of interest is that in an article somewhere?

Can't find anywhere to be honest but Paralympic Wheelchair Tennis Event has always had ranking points. Unlike the Olympics, there's no need for negotiations with the ATP and the WTA.

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9vicman wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
9vicman wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Presumably if the paralympics doesnt have ranking points and there are no more slams or series 1 events, Alfie is almost certain to end the season number 1? Presumably there is just the Masters that could impact that?
The Paralympics has ranking points at Super Series level. Which isn't very generous.
Ok, thats cool. I hadnt realised that. Out of interest is that in an article somewhere?
Can't find anywhere to be honest but Paralympic Wheelchair Tennis Event has always had ranking points. Unlike the Olympics, there's no need for negotiations with the ATP and the WTA.

Makes sense. Thanks Vicman!

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Although the Slam and Super Series events are over for the year (as we wait for the Paralympics in a month or so's time), this week is the Series 1 Swiss Open, which is on clay.

British interest was confined to Gordon Reid (2nd seed) and Andrew Penney. Andrew lost early, but Gordon won his opening match after a bye and is now into the last 8.

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Gordon into the Swiss Open final, where he plays de la Puente, the Wimbledon finalist and top seed here

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The GB team for the Paralympics is announced:

Mens singles - Alfie Hewett, Gordon Reid, Ben Bartram, Dahnon Ward

Womens singles - Lucy Shuker

Quad singles - Andy Lapthorne

Mens doubles - Hewett/Reid, Bartram/Ward

no entries in womens and quad doubles yet but they are leaving partners for Andy and Lucy as tbc for now

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cj7dr97nd1no

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Friday 19th of July 2024 09:46:26 PM

9vicman · Satellite level

JonH comes home wrote:
The GB team for the Paralympics is announced:

Mens singles - Alfie Hewett, Gordon Reid, Ben Bartram, Dahnon Ward

Womens singles - Lucy Shuker

Quad singles - Andy Lapthorne

Mens doubles - Hewett/Reid, Bartram/Ward

no entries in womens and quad doubles yet but they are leaving partners for Andy and Lucy as tbc for now

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cj7dr97nd1no

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Friday 19th of July 2024 09:46:26 PM

In the Paralympic Tennis Event, you have to be playing singles to compete in doubles. So Lucy and Andy will both be hoping that a second GB player receives a Bipartite Commission Invitation Place so they can pair up.

The Bipartite Commission is made up of the ITF and IPC, and they are responsible for inviting additional athletes to compete. Traditionally a lot of these places have gone to countries with an odd number of singles players to enable more doubles team to take part.

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9vicman wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
The GB team for the Paralympics is announced:

Mens singles - Alfie Hewett, Gordon Reid, Ben Bartram, Dahnon Ward

Womens singles - Lucy Shuker

Quad singles - Andy Lapthorne

Mens doubles - Hewett/Reid, Bartram/Ward

no entries in womens and quad doubles yet but they are leaving partners for Andy and Lucy as tbc for now

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cj7dr97nd1no

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Friday 19th of July 2024 09:46:26 PM
In the Paralympic Tennis Event, you have to be playing singles to compete in doubles. So Lucy and Andy will both be hoping that a second GB player receives a Bipartite Commission Invitation Place so they can pair up.
The Bipartite Commission is made up of the ITF and IPC, and they are responsible for inviting additional athletes to compete. Traditionally a lot of these places have gone to countries with an odd number of singles players to enable more doubles team to take part.

Id thought it may be linked to that or something similar. Our next ranked woman is Abbie Breakwell at 40th and quad is Greg Slade at 19. Not sure how that stacks up, but Abbie at least seems a stretch.

9vicman · Satellite level

JonH comes home wrote:
9vicman wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
The GB team for the Paralympics is announced:

Mens singles - Alfie Hewett, Gordon Reid, Ben Bartram, Dahnon Ward

Womens singles - Lucy Shuker

Quad singles - Andy Lapthorne

Mens doubles - Hewett/Reid, Bartram/Ward

no entries in womens and quad doubles yet but they are leaving partners for Andy and Lucy as tbc for now

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cj7dr97nd1no

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Friday 19th of July 2024 09:46:26 PM
In the Paralympic Tennis Event, you have to be playing singles to compete in doubles. So Lucy and Andy will both be hoping that a second GB player receives a Bipartite Commission Invitation Place so they can pair up.
The Bipartite Commission is made up of the ITF and IPC, and they are responsible for inviting additional athletes to compete. Traditionally a lot of these places have gone to countries with an odd number of singles players to enable more doubles team to take part.
Id thought it may be linked to that or something similar. Our next ranked woman is Abbie Breakwell at 40th and quad is Greg Slade at 19. Not sure how that stacks up, but Abbie at least seems a stretch.

Amd there lies the dilemma. Do you prioritise the strength of singles entries or maximising the number of doubles teams.

Breakwall ranked 40 for a women's draw of 32 isn't that different from Slade ranked 19 for a quad draw of 16. I suspect they'll go down the doubles route for quads but perhaps be more balanced for men/women.

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9vicman wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
9vicman wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
The GB team for the Paralympics is announced:

Mens singles - Alfie Hewett, Gordon Reid, Ben Bartram, Dahnon Ward

Womens singles - Lucy Shuker

Quad singles - Andy Lapthorne

Mens doubles - Hewett/Reid, Bartram/Ward

no entries in womens and quad doubles yet but they are leaving partners for Andy and Lucy as tbc for now

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cj7dr97nd1no

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Friday 19th of July 2024 09:46:26 PM
In the Paralympic Tennis Event, you have to be playing singles to compete in doubles. So Lucy and Andy will both be hoping that a second GB player receives a Bipartite Commission Invitation Place so they can pair up.
The Bipartite Commission is made up of the ITF and IPC, and they are responsible for inviting additional athletes to compete. Traditionally a lot of these places have gone to countries with an odd number of singles players to enable more doubles team to take part.
Id thought it may be linked to that or something similar. Our next ranked woman is Abbie Breakwell at 40th and quad is Greg Slade at 19. Not sure how that stacks up, but Abbie at least seems a stretch.
Amd there lies the dilemma. Do you prioritise the strength of singles entries or maximising the number of doubles teams.
Breakwall ranked 40 for a women's draw of 32 isn't that different from Slade ranked 19 for a quad draw of 16. I suspect they'll go down the doubles route for quads but perhaps be more balanced for men/women.

and do they or should they pay attention to the standard of the singles player who needs a partner. All due respect to Lucy, but Lucy and Abbie dont strike me as a pair that will challenge for a medal. However, Andy is clearly one of the best doubles players and with Greg could form a strong doubles pair that may challenge for a medal, Id think, after the Dutch pair and maybe the Aussies and Americans, Israelis. They certainly would be in the mix.

9vicman · Satellite level

Yes, think everything is taken into consideration. Shuker is actually a Top 10 doubles player, and Cornelia Oosthuizen is a decent doubles player so they would make the strongest pair. But Oosthuizen is only ranked 50 in singles.

It's a flawed system and dictated by the IPC to keep number down.