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L32: Katie Swan WR 280 vs (2) Margaux Rouvroy (FRA) WR 235



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L16: Patcharin Cheapchandej & Peangtarn Plipuech (THA/THA) CR 979 (852+129) vs Berfu Cengiz (TUR) & Katie Swan CR 1042 (324+1018)



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L16: Patcharin Cheapchandej & Peangtarn Plipuech (THA/THA) CR 979 (852+129) vs Berfu Cengiz (TUR) & Harriet Dart CR 1042 (324+1018)

 How can Harriet be in the doubles here and in Canberra ?



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Hmmm. This should b very winnable for Katie but who knows with the back issues and lack of play.

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DF wrote:
wolf wrote:

L16: Patcharin Cheapchandej & Peangtarn Plipuech (THA/THA) CR 979 (852+129) vs Berfu Cengiz (TUR) & Harriet Dart CR 1042 (324+1018)

 How can Harriet be in the doubles here and in Canberra ?

I think that should be Katie in the doubles - not Harriet who is indeed in Canberra 



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L16: Patcharin Cheapchandej & Peangtarn Plipuech (THA/THA) CR 979 (852+129) vs Berfu Cengiz (TUR) & Katie Swan CR 1042 (324+1018)

 L16: Katie S and partner won 6-3 3-6 10-1



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QF: Berfu Cengiz (TUR) & Katie Swan CR 1042 (324+1018) vs Lanlana Tararudee & Chia Yi Tsao (THA/TPE) CR 626 (443+183)



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R1: SWAN, Katie (GBR) 282 (CH=118 2022) lost to ROUVROY, Margaux (FRA) (2) 234 (CH=232 2023) 4-6 5-7

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Katie didn't play a great match. But at least she didn't look injured

Margaux does very little with the ball except push you back with long, loopy shots and then dropshot you (and hit a few good first serves)

Katie was a bit all over the place and the score was fair - the more difficult to beat person won

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Can't remember many times where I have been less impressed with an opponents game.

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RainDelay wrote:

Can't remember many times where I have been less impressed with an opponents game.

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I know - it's feeble - makes you want to take up watching another sport no



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Coup Droit wrote:
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Can't remember many times where I have been less impressed with an opponents game.

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I know - it's feeble - makes you want to take up watching another sport no

 What is it with French players? Are they coached to play that way. On today's showing Rouvroy is really frustrating to play against. Her main weapon is an accurate bomb of a serve, she just seems to find a succession of aces when down in her service games. She got out of jail a number of times today when Katie had advantage. Then when receiving serve, Rouvroy flips into all out defense mode, just flipping balls back with no pace, or sending high loopy balls to drive the opponent miles off court, and waiting to play the sliced drop shot. Swan was never out of the match, but was a bit rusty, and although breaking Rouvroy's serve a couple of times, just couldn't deal well enough with the tactics of the French player. Anxiety from the match not going as she'd hoped seemed to creep in, which is only natural not having played a competitive match for a while. Things aren't running for Katie, but eventually she'll get back to her normal level, gain confidence and start winning matches again.



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Yes, our anlysis is identical !

I don't think the French women are actually coached like that - and certainly Océane Dodin, or Caro Garcia, or Elsa Jacquemot don't play that way (thank the lord)

But it might be a clay court thing - although I think Margaux is from the north

Actually, she's a pain in her coach's side; she said in an interview this spring:

"Or je "kiffe" la compétition, je suis "une matcheuse à mort", jaime le plaisir de la compétition. Moins celui de lentraînement. A cause de ça, mon coach en bave un peu (rires)."

which sort of means: "Besides, I just love competition, (kiffer means to smoke dope and get off your head), I'm a match-player, right to the death, I get a lot of pleasure from competition - but far less from training - my coach has a pretty hard time of it (laughing)

She also says:

"Parmi mes qualités, je citerais le physique, les variations, le toucher, le sens du jeu. Concernant, les points à améliorer il y a beaucoup de choses (rires), mais principalement lagressivité.

Dans les moments chauds, je vais y aller mais "à ma sauce", en faisant des amorties, en venant à la volée alors que dans mes frappes de fond de court, je pourrais en mettre plus."

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"Among my best qualities, I would cite my physicality, variation, touch, sense of the game. Regarding the points to improve there are many things, but mainly aggressiveness.

In really close moments, I try to be more aggressive but "in my own way", doing dropshots, coming to the net, while in my baseline shots, I still need to be more offensive."

So, I guess she does recognise the problem

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Thanks for the interesting info on Rouvroy, CD, it certainly matches how she played today. At times she seemed detached, almost lanquid, whilst waiting to receive serve, though in the rally she was executing her game plan relentlessly. Actually there were some horrendous line calls for both players, and Rouvroy showed she has a temper by chucking her racquet at the back fence after one serve was given in, when a good 6ins out. I thought I saw a likeness in style to Cornet / Ponchet / Tan, though you're right not all the French women play that defensive type of game, waiting for the opponent to get drawn in to being over-aggressive. There were a few glimpses that Rouvroy can play a more conventional game, but mostly it was about trying to manouevre the opponent out of position and off the baseline. Katie seemed to have success early on coming to the net and volleying, which is perhaps an area of her game she has been working on, but as the match unfolded and confidence on serve started to wane, there was less serve and volley attempted. Rouvroy was quite adept at the playing the lob when both players were drawn in towards the net, too.



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Katie has withdrawn from her doubles today. I would have thought the match play would be useful. Hoping this doesn't mean yet another injury?

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