Bob, I have PM'd you, for info.

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Bob in Spain wrote:

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With voting well advanced in the SFs, I am predicting a run away victory for Katie B in the final. I always get the feeling that there are more on the board that follow the women's game than the men's game which produces a purely statistical bias in favour of the women when it comes to voting - not complaining here, but just stating it as I see it.

Although Hannah's victory in the Orange Bowl might throw a small spanner in the works, I would imagine that Katie will pick up the majority of votes from those who tend to favour the women's game. On the men's side however, I can see the vote being split fairly evenly between Billy, Liam and Joe, probably removing the chance of any of them being voted the overall winner.

I may be wrong, but time will tell. And if Katie does win, she will be a worthy winner having had an excellent season.

Just wondering if in the future, it's worth having the men and women separate during the year, before selecting a men's Player of the Year and women's Player of the Year. The final vote would then be between those two for the overall winner.

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It is interesting, but all public voting has flaws and highlights: personally I find it interesting that Jon's vote is one of the few areas of sport where men and women compete on a completely level playing field, with the only bias in the eye of the voter (as it has to be for a vote to work) so it appears counterproductive to me to force the voting into gender lines.

Online voting can throw up unexpected results - as an example I watched the Luton v Man City game the other day, and after City won 2-1 I noticed the player ratings on BBC Sport (voted for by the general BBC website audience). The lowest score a Luton player got was 6.03. The highest score a City player got was 6.02 (out of 10). This in a match that City dominated in every category (including, oddly, goals!). I think that it would be fair to say that these ratings aren't a reflection of how well a player is actually playing, but of their value in the context of entertainment, perhaps? Similarly here, it matters inherently not a whit if a contestant is male or female, but only the preference of the voters.

christ wrote:

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Bob in Spain wrote:

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With voting well advanced in the SFs, I am predicting a run away victory for Katie B in the final. I always get the feeling that there are more on the board that follow the women's game than the men's game which produces a purely statistical bias in favour of the women when it comes to voting - not complaining here, but just stating it as I see it.

Although Hannah's victory in the Orange Bowl might throw a small spanner in the works, I would imagine that Katie will pick up the majority of votes from those who tend to favour the women's game. On the men's side however, I can see the vote being split fairly evenly between Billy, Liam and Joe, probably removing the chance of any of them being voted the overall winner.

I may be wrong, but time will tell. And if Katie does win, she will be a worthy winner having had an excellent season.

Just wondering if in the future, it's worth having the men and women separate during the year, before selecting a men's Player of the Year and women's Player of the Year. The final vote would then be between those two for the overall winner.

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It is interesting, but all public voting has flaws and highlights: personally I find it interesting that Jon's vote is one of the few areas of sport where men and women compete on a completely level playing field, with the only bias in the eye of the voter (as it has to be for a vote to work) so it appears counterproductive to me to force the voting into gender lines.

Online voting can throw up unexpected results - as an example I watched the Luton v Man City game the other day, and after City won 2-1 I noticed the player ratings on BBC Sport (voted for by the general BBC website audience). The lowest score a Luton player got was 6.03. The highest score a City player got was 6.02 (out of 10). This in a match that City dominated in every category (including, oddly, goals!). I think that it would be fair to say that these ratings aren't a reflection of how well a player is actually playing, but of their value in the context of entertainment, perhaps? Similarly here, it matters inherently not a whit if a contestant is male or female, but only the preference of the voters.

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 Thanks Rich and agree 

i intend to tinker with a few things around the whole PoM and PoS process next time, for the better, but where small flaws have been exposed that we can improve! 

there are a couple of things Ill be asking feedback for in some posts Ill make, and Id considered the men and women aspect. But I thought it through and will keep one single process, mixed; i think it works, as you say, and makes it more interesting plus, being frank, is less work for me in terms of the voting process. 

Ill post threads relating to the questions I am asking and also set out the changes I am making to improve it. One issue has been highlighted via the voting taking place over this weekend and Ill address that separately as well, partly related to the upcoming final vote but also to fix it for the future with greater clarity. 

There are possibly just enough votes left this evening to close the gap on the top 2, but it will be a stretch. I would say they are likely safe, but lets see how it progresses

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