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Only Nottingham and Glasgow count. Remember, a WC will only count to both AER and usual calendar year limits when they get WTA points with it. So any loss in R1 of a W25 or W15, or any loss in Q1 of any ITF will not count towards WC limits.

And, no, in my view it's not warranted. She's at the NTA, so I thought she wasn't with Lewandowski now?

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 Following this logic, I think this means that Hannah Klugman would be allowed one more WC in a $40K or below until her next birthday.

  She has scoring  WC from Glasgow ($60K) and Nottingham ($25K), but is only allowed to play 3 tournaments of $60K or above and has done one $60K and two $100Ks.  She is allowed to play up to 8 ITF tournaments.

Poor Eliz. It's really been a struggle after such a good little run in the UK events last winter. That's 9 losses in a row including her retirement in Surbiton.

Super win for Alice though. Absolutely drubbed the Estonian girl.

Lambda wrote:

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simon381 wrote:

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Lambda wrote:

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Only Nottingham and Glasgow count. Remember, a WC will only count to both AER and usual calendar year limits when they get WTA points with it. So any loss in R1 of a W25 or W15, or any loss in Q1 of any ITF will not count towards WC limits.

And, no, in my view it's not warranted. She's at the NTA, so I thought she wasn't with Lewandowski now?

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 Following this logic, I think this means that Hannah Klugman would be allowed one more WC in a $40K or below until her next birthday.

  She has scoring  WC from Glasgow ($60K) and Nottingham ($25K), but is only allowed to play 3 tournaments of $60K or above and has done one $60K and two $100Ks.  She is allowed to play up to 8 ITF tournaments.

-- Edited by simon381 on Tuesday 31st of October 2023 12:21:18 PM

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My understanding is that Hannah is allowed 1 more WC in any event up to WTA250. Although she has played 3 ITFs at 60k and above, as with WCs only events she has WTA points from count towards the 8 events she's allowed to play. Therefore as she lost in Q1 in Ilkley, it isn't counted towards events played. It would be better thought of as being allowed 8 counters than events being allowed to play.

It's most likely all academic, as unless there's a GB event in the couple of weeks between from when she comes back from Australia and her birthday I don't see where she'd take a WC, or for that matter play a pro event. I hope she takes time off after the junior BJK until the junior lead in to the Australian Open juniors.

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 Me too, Lambda.

But not sure it's going to happen. I believe that Hannah is entered for both the J500 Merida (20th Nov) and the Orange Bowl J500 (4th Dec). Of course, just being entered doesn't necessarily mean she's going to play but.......

Jaggy1876 wrote:

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PaulM wrote:

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Poor Eliz. It's really been a struggle after such a good little run in the UK events last winter. That's 9 losses in a row including her retirement in Surbiton.

 

Super win for Alice though. Absolutely drubbed the Estonian girl.

-- Edited by PaulM on Tuesday 31st of October 2023 02:54:36 PM

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 Ive always thought Eliz was overranked and was very surprised she made the top 500. Unlucky with the time out but I see her true ranking being in the Emilie Lindh, Alice Gillan ballpark. In that regard maybe a few weeks in the usual haunts in the 15k range would be better.

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 Eliz (coming back from injury) is down 150+ places this week owing to 49 points off (31 + 18). Anybody who can put on 49 points in 2 events would be ranked well above 500. With so many of our top 20 ranked players either injured or returning from injury it's very difficult to get a clear picture of who belongs where.

Current 11-20

344    Anna Brogan - not playing regularly
345    Eden Silva - Mainly doubles ?
346    Katy Dunne - recovering
368    Naiktha Bains - injured
385    Emily Appleton - Mainly doubles ?
463    Eliz Maloney - recovering
486    Sarah Beth Grey - recovering
563    Freya Christie- Mainly doubles ?
609    Isabelle Lacy - ?
652    Emilie Lindh Gallagher - recovering

Your guess as to how it will end up is as good as mine

Isa takes the second set after losing the first 6-4. Let's hope she continues the momentum. She's had some difficult draws with playing the number one seed, the number two seed, an in-form Mimi and now the fifth seed in her last four tournaments including this one, so it's difficult to place her progress, also having come back from injury (still don't think it's coincidence that so many of our girls and women get injured!)

Yeah Katy had points for *5-2 in the second I think?

Isa came out the wrong end of two tough games early in the third. After saving so many break points at *1-1 she double faulted on her only game point which was a bit of a gut puncher then missed a couple of break points to get back into it.

She's played well overall though. The doubles are a problem, she's just hit her 11th altough she's had 10 aces.

Emma has taken the first set on the unstreamed court.