week 33 - WTA125 - Stanford, USA Hard

DF · Tennis legend

week 33 - WTA125 - Stanford, USA Hard

the addict · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
the addict wrote:
F:- Jodie Burrage (GBR) / Olivia Gadecki (AUS) CR679 (541+138) def Claire Liu (USA) / Hayiey Baptiste (USA) CR 668 (420+248) 7-6(4) (6)6-7 10-8
Oh , well done Jodie! Is that her first WTA title? Assuming we count 125 events as main tour? Well done though !

Just two W25 and three W15 doubles titles - so a massive jump

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
the addict wrote:
F:- Jodie Burrage (GBR) / Olivia Gadecki (AUS) CR679 (541+138) def Claire Liu (USA) / Hayiey Baptiste (USA) CR 668 (420+248) 7-6(4) (6)6-7 10-8
Oh , well done Jodie! Is that her first WTA title? Assuming we count 125 events as main tour? Well done though !
Just two W25 and three W15 doubles titles - so a massive jump

Someone needs to hop over to another thread id reckon. Haha.

Lambda · Challenger level

No, WTA125 doesn't count as the main tour.

But great choice to win at the only WTA125 that pays women men's prize money!

Lambda · Challenger level

the addict wrote:
The WTA website appears to have been fixed !

No, most definitely still broken.

According to her match history Jodie lost to Sebov in the WTA 1000 Lipton Championships in March 1995 and reached Q3 of the Australian Open in 2020 and lost to Lily in the W25 Glasgow in 2009. Emma won the US Open in 2019 and lost to Harriet in the first round of the Nottingham 250 this year and got to the QF of the W100 in Landisville a couple of weeks ago. confuse

-- Edited by Lambda on Saturday 19th of August 2023 09:59:31 PM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Lambda wrote:
No, WTA125 doesn't count as the main tour.

But great choice to win at the only WTA125 that pays women men's prize money!

more like a top end challenger then?! WTA show these events on their calendar as if they are main tour, but clearly that is hiding the real situation!

PaulM · Tennis legend

Yeah they are sort of like a half way house between ITF and Main Tour, and the same really as an ATP Challenger 125. But the WTA doesn't consider itself to have a 'Challenger Tour' in the way the ATP does, it's just it's lowest category of event.

I'm sometimes inclined to treat them as WTA Titles as they are sort of similar to what the old Tier V (and arguably Tier IV) Events were before the Tour restructure in 2008 when any surviving Tier III, IV and V events were merged into the 'International' category.

-- Edited by PaulM on Sunday 20th of August 2023 07:28:01 AM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

PaulM wrote:
Yeah they are sort of like a half way house between ITF and Main Tour, and the same really as an ATP Challenger 125. But the WTA doesn't consider itself to have a 'Challenger Tour' in the way the ATP does, it's just it's lowest category of event.

I'm sometimes inclined to treat them as WTA Titles as they are sort of similar to what the old Tier V (and arguably Tier IV) Events were before the Tour restructure in 2008 when any surviving Tier III, IV and V events were merged into the 'International' category.

-- Edited by PaulM on Sunday 20th of August 2023 07:28:01 AM

Thanks - Ive always been aware of them but never really delved into them and who plays as I dont really follow the WTA. How would the typical entry of a WTA 125 compare to an ITF100 and , say, an event like Ilkley- I tended to see those as the top challengers equivalent in my head but only because I go to watch Ilkley , where the mens event alongside it is a mens atp challenger? presumably an ITF 100 and WTA 125 have similar entry standards?

GAMEOVER · Satellite level

There are good ranking points available for winning a WTA 125 event. i.e. 160. A player can rise up the rankings with wins in these tournaments. For example Arantxa Rus has reached her highest career ranking at the age of 33 with wins at this level. Then has gained direct entry to the Grand Slams.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

GAMEOVER wrote:
There are good ranking points available for winning a WTA 125 event. i.e. 160. A player can rise up the rankings with wins in these tournaments. For example Arantxa Rus has reached her highest career ranking at the age of 33 with wins at this level. Then has gained direct entry to the Grand Slams.

Ok cool - doesnt the ranking points align at this level ie 125 ish for a 125? 100 for an itf 100? I know at the higher levels its not quite aligned like the mens is , eg 470 at a 500 event, but presumed it was close enough to justify the title (otherwise why not a a WTA 160?!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Sorry I should know this stuff - but tend to jump into the WTA threads and then jump quickly out without taking much in! Apologies if this is an old discussion. And well done again to our girls who are in or around their career best rankings

Lambda · Challenger level

These were originally called the 125k series as the prize fund was $125k. The prize fund is now $115k, but are called 125 to align with ATP 125 challenger branding.

Rich2310 · County player

Well done Jodie on her biggest title.

GAMEOVER · Satellite level

JonH comes home wrote:
GAMEOVER wrote:
There are good ranking points available for winning a WTA 125 event. i.e. 160. A player can rise up the rankings with wins in these tournaments. For example Arantxa Rus has reached her highest career ranking at the age of 33 with wins at this level. Then has gained direct entry to the Grand Slams.
Ok cool - doesnt the ranking points align at this level ie 125 ish for a 125? 100 for an itf 100? I know at the higher levels its not quite aligned like the mens is , eg 470 at a 500 event, but presumed it was close enough to justify the title (otherwise why not a a WTA 160?!

Jon if you look on Wikipedia and the 2020 WTA media guide the points awarded for winning a WTA $125k series tournament is 160 with 95 for the runner up. $15,000 is the winners prize.

indiana · Tennis legend

It does remain so silly, though I need to get less annoyed by it, that the WTA rebranded some time ago now to WTA 250s, 500s and 1000s, in line with the ATP events ( that actually do award 250. 500 and 1000 points ) and have still done nothing regarding making comparatively minor changes needed to at least the winners' ranking points awards.