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christ


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Not this argument again. They are different sports with mostly the same rules. Women's tennis and men's tennis. (To say nothing of junior tennis, wheelchair tennis, senior tennis ...)

If equality is mandatory, have a single open tournament that anyone can enter like they do in Scrabble or chess.

... but then some would consider that discriminatory.

Have you suffered a recent blow to the head?

Yup. Hit with the honesty stick. 



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Katie has won the first set 7-5. 



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She won 7-5 6-3

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I thought Katie looked good in the few games I saw. Leylah F up next, and Katie will be the higher ranked player...

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Q1: BOULTER, Katie (GBR) (6) 74 (CH=73 2023) v MANDLIK, Elizabeth (USA) 120 (CH=97 2023) 7-5 6-3

Q2: BOULTER, Katie (GBR) (6) 74 (CH=73 2023) v FERNANDEZ, Leylah (CAN) 86 (CH=13 2022)
They met in Montreal in 2018 with Katie winning in three.


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Great win. Well done Katie

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christ wrote:
wolf wrote:
christ wrote:

Not this argument again. They are different sports with mostly the same rules. Women's tennis and men's tennis. (To say nothing of junior tennis, wheelchair tennis, senior tennis ...)

If equality is mandatory, have a single open tournament that anyone can enter like they do in Scrabble or chess.

... but then some would consider that discriminatory.

Have you suffered a recent blow to the head?

Yup. Hit with the honesty stick. 

 christ has a fair point

The reason that women and men doctors should be paid exactly the same is that they do the same doctoring - it's one great melting pot of doctors, providing the same service, no distinction between them, all interchangeable 

But women and men tennis players are not interchangeable, they're not all in it together, they're split apart and - as he says - provide different variations on the sport which are not the same. 

Now, maybe women and men should be paid the same because of the message it sends out, that's a very fair point; maybe women's tennis is as commercially popular as men's or more so (it isn't but maybe it will be one day); there are many other possible reasons in favour of complete pay equality in tennis. 

But it's not like doctors, say.



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jb288 wrote:

I thought Katie looked good in the few games I saw. Leylah F up next, and Katie will be the higher ranked player...

 Yeah, but probably down to her points from Nottingham.  I really really hope she beats  Leylah  though. 



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Julia Carrot wrote:
jb288 wrote:

I thought Katie looked good in the few games I saw. Leylah F up next, and Katie will be the higher ranked player...

 Yeah, but probably down to her points from Nottingham.  I really really hope she beats  Leylah  though. 

 Agreed with this. I always ignore rankings because any difference is purely down to their relative performance in tournaments.



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Jeff Stelling wrote:
Julia Carrot wrote:
jb288 wrote:

I thought Katie looked good in the few games I saw. Leylah F up next, and Katie will be the higher ranked player...

 Yeah, but probably down to her points from Nottingham.  I really really hope she beats  Leylah  though. 

 Agreed with this. I always ignore rankings because any difference is purely down to their relative performance in tournaments.

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Katie's match starting soon. i've got it on BET365, anyone found it not on a betting site?

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Julia Carrot wrote:

Katie's match starting soon. i've got it on BET365, anyone found it not on a betting site?

 Not on Prime, although they appear to be covering singles and doubles main draws, men and women, from tomorrow (Mon July 31)



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Q2: BOULTER, Katie (GBR) (6) 74 lost to FERNANDEZ, Leylah (CAN) 86 4-6 1-6

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That's a shame but not a huge surprise

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Think we just have to be realistic in our expectations of Boulter (and Burrage) despite her current ranking. Without the Nottingham points she'd be in the 120s. Almost half (13/28) of her Top 100 wins have come on grass, and her last win on outdoor hard was 2022 Indian Wells. That said, consolidating a Top 100 ranking is certainly possible.

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