Week 30 - WTA250 - Warsaw, Poland Hard

KK · Club Coach

RE: Week 30 - WTA250 - Warsaw, Poland Hard

the addict · Tennis legend

wolf wrote:
It looks like there has been a re jig in the doubles as Alicia & Olivia have been promoted to a seeding spot and now face Heather.

Typical WTA. Wait ages for them to publish the draw, and then they change it round.

It's unfortunate, they would all have been better off as it stood - Heather and Yanina could be a very useful pair if they gel as a team.

Updated draw

Doubles - all in different quarters of the draw

L16:- Naiktha Bains (GBR) / Maia Lumsden (GBR) CR189 (94+95) v Martyna Kubka (POL) / Natalija Stevanovic (SRB) CR576 (290+286)

L16:- Nigina Abduraimova (UZB) / Jodie Burrage (GBR) CR709 (228+481) v Weronika Falkowska (POL) / Katarzyna Piter (POL) CR210 (92+118)

L16:- Heather Watson (GBR) / Yanina Wickmayer (BEL) CR162 (180+82) v Alicia Barnett (GBR) / Olivia Nicholls (GBR) CR160 (79+81) [5]

-- Edited by the addict on Sunday 23rd of July 2023 07:56:24 PM

emmsie69 · Top national player

KK wrote:
I think Athletics banned Russia for condoning doping and did so before the invasion of Ukraine.

Russians have been able to compete in Athletics They have to meet strict anti doping criteria and compete under the Authorised Neutral Athlete (ANA) scheme

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

emmsie69 wrote:
KK wrote:
I think Athletics banned Russia for condoning doping and did so before the invasion of Ukraine.
Russians have been able to compete in Athletics They have to meet strict anti doping criteria and compete under the Authorised Neutral Athlete (ANA) scheme

ok, thanks for clarifying

dodrade · Futures qualifying

emmsie69 wrote:
KK wrote:
I think Athletics banned Russia for condoning doping and did so before the invasion of Ukraine.
Russians have been able to compete in Athletics They have to meet strict anti doping criteria and compete under the Authorised Neutral Athlete (ANA) scheme

They did before the invasion of Ukraine but were then banned altogether, which doesn't make much sense if they were already "neutral". Why punish them for the actions of a country they officially don't represent?

Don't understand how Lissey and Liv got much harder opponents as seeds than in the original draw.

Strongbow · All-time great

No idea why(Can't beleive they're seeds) but sh*t happens wink Usually in tennis.

-- Edited by Strongbow on Monday 24th of July 2023 12:13:20 AM

-- Edited by Strongbow on Monday 24th of July 2023 12:15:27 AM

indiana · Tennis legend

Just the way it has turned out.

The odds are you get a better R1 draw as seeds, just in that you are guaranteed to meet non seeds. But in this case Lissey & Olivia were originally drawn to play non seeds anyway, so then for themselves no theoretical R1 advantage in becoming seeds and it happens, when inheriting the original #2 seeds' spot, they have ended up with higher ranked opponents in Heather & Yanina.

They will though, unlike originally, now be guaranteed to not play a seeded pair before the SF in that the 4 seeds are in separate quarters.

emmsie69 · Top national player

dodrade wrote:
emmsie69 wrote:
KK wrote:
I think Athletics banned Russia for condoning doping and did so before the invasion of Ukraine.
Russians have been able to compete in Athletics They have to meet strict anti doping criteria and compete under the Authorised Neutral Athlete (ANA) scheme
They did before the invasion of Ukraine but were then banned altogether, which doesn't make much sense if they were already "neutral". Why punish them for the actions of a country they officially don't represent?
Don't understand how Lissey and Liv got much harder opponents as seeds than in the original draw.

The neutral part is only about the doping system they have been using. Initially Russians could only compete if they were training in a Country outside of Russia with a legitimate doping strategy and implementation. I think the criteria is a bit looser now.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

LONDON, March 23 (Reuters) - World Athletics has voted to end its eight-year ban of the Russian Athletics Federation (RusAF) but the country's athletes, and those of Belarus, will remain excluded from international competition because of WA's ongoing separate ban over the invasion of Ukraine, the governing body said on Thursday.

"Council approved the recommendation to exclude athletes and officials from Russia and Belarus from all our world athletics series events for foreseeable future due to the invasion and ongoing war in Ukraine," WA President Sebastian Coe told a remote news conference.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

So they are banned now due to the war and not due to doping

DF · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
Doubles - all in different quarters of the draw

L16:- Naiktha Bains (GBR) / Maia Lumsden (GBR) CR189 (94+95) v Martyna Kubka (POL) / Natalija Stevanovic (SRB) CR576 (290+286)

L16:- Nigina Abduraimova (UZB) / Jodie Burrage (GBR) CR709 (228+481) v Weronika Falkowska (POL) / Katarzyna Piter (POL) CR210 (92+118)

L16:- Alicia Barnett (GBR) / Olivia Nicholls (GBR) CR160 (79+81) v Maja Chwalinska (POL) / J. Ponchet (FRA) CR478 (284+194)

L16:- Heather Watson (GBR) / Y. Wickmayer (BEL) CR162 (180+82) v Natela Dzalamidze (GEO) / Monica Niculescu (ROU) CR122 (74+48) (2)
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Naiktha and Maia win 6-2 7-5

the addict · Tennis legend

Maia and Naiktha lead the way

L16:- Naiktha Bains (GBR) / Maia Lumsden (GBR) CR189 (94+95) def Martyna Kubka (POL) / Natalija Stevanovic (SRB) CR576 (290+286) 6-2 7-5

QF:- Naiktha Bains (GBR) / Maia Lumsden (GBR) CR189 (94+95) v Linda Noskova (CZE) / Xiyu Wang (CHN) CR682 (217+465)

Noskova and Wang put out the top seeds Zhang and Zhu CR119 (28+91)

PaulM · Tennis legend

Nicely done, a soft draw and well handled. Great stuff.

PaulM · Tennis legend

Jodie will play Raina.

Peter too · Tennis legend

R1: WATSON, Heather (GBR) 146 (CH=38 2015) v SINIAKOVA, Katerina (CZE) (3) 36 (CH=31 2018)
The met in Dubai in 2020 with Katerina winning 2 & 5
R1: BURRAGE, Jodie (GBR) 95 =CH v RAINA, Ankita (IND) 200 (CH=160 2020)